From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA03463 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3GOcd028990 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3FmB11369; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:15:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:15:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Feb 27 20:15:48 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227220931.038a0a40@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:35 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1680 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 989c2cf0f21f15c594e35c3e394c5a87 I had three volunteers for the Board Secretary position: Kelly Blizzard "I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL" Caroline House "I might be able to handle this. I worked several years as a secretary in academic departments. Since then I've been otherwise employed but I am an experienced genealogist. My volunteer job at the moment is director of the LDS Family History Center in Woodland, California and teaching Word for Windows at the Woodland Senior Center. "E-mail, word processing and spread sheets I can do. If there is a lot of more involved computer work, I would have to see what it was. I can put in a new CD-ROM drive, but for web pages and things like PowerPoint I am still at the beginning stage." Alice Gayley from whom I rec'd two messages... the second was lengthier and included most of what was in the first message. I will forward that message to the Board right after sending this. Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. Holly From ???@??? Tue Feb 26 18:10:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01760 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1QCGrcd004675 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1QC8Tx18582; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:08:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:08:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Tue Feb 26 05:08:28 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020226070907.00d1bc10@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:11:09 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1667 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 20e6dcfa5343995b58c920ce67113d59 I have just now written to my choice for Board Secretary to confirm the individual is still interested. If the response is positive I will be posting her name and qualifications/comments here for your approval as well as naming the other candidates. From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA03472 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3GScd028995 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3Fq311498; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:15:52 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:15:52 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Feb 27 20:15:52 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227221751.02904a90@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:38 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1681 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 911a6492056a55b6d1a37a81cd672c6f >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 >From: Alice Gayley >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Holly Timm >Subject: Board Secretary Position >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > >Holly, > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting >volunteers. > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is >an important position that should facilitate communication between the >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move >their board's deliberations along. > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both >PA) USGenWeb sites. > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical >site on the web. > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > >Respectfully submitted, >Alice Gayley > >Board Assistant Comments: > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. >Fully entry for each would be > >Agenda item title >Full text of agenda item >Date submitted >Person submitting >Status (these items would have to be defined) > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA03828 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3LScd029522 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3KZA16100; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:20:35 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:20:35 -0700 X-Original-Sender: maplecreek_99@yahoo.com Wed Feb 27 20:20:34 2002 Message-ID: <022d01c1c006$ce31ee00$10a128d8@hppav> From: "Ron Eason" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227220931.038a0a40@mail.bright.net> Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:19:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1682 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7f85233d042b6aa76b1345cda56cf952 Holly, You have my acceptance of your choice for Board Secretary. Ron Eason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:18 PM Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary > > I had three volunteers for the Board Secretary position: > > Kelly Blizzard > "I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily > attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL" > > Caroline House > "I might be able to handle this. I worked several years as a secretary in > academic departments. Since then I've been otherwise employed but I am an > experienced genealogist. My volunteer job at the moment is director of the > LDS Family History Center in Woodland, California and teaching Word for > Windows at the Woodland Senior Center. > > "E-mail, word processing and spread sheets I can do. If there is a lot of > more involved computer work, I would have to see what it was. I can put in > a new CD-ROM drive, but for web pages and things like PowerPoint I am still > at the beginning stage." > > Alice Gayley > from whom I rec'd two messages... the second was lengthier and included most > of what was in the first message. I will forward that message to the > Board right > after sending this. > > Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. > > Holly > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA04786 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3XXcd000916 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3Wbr30250; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:32:37 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:32:37 -0700 X-Original-Sender: pamreid@home.com Wed Feb 27 20:32:37 2002 From: "Pam Reid" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <15e.985ec94.29aefd07@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1685 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 382beeb0a558490e1d5cda826c8a6c7e Your choice for board secretary is fine with me. Pam From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05236 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3cfcd001576 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3bx101486; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:37:59 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:37:59 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Feb 27 20:37:58 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:12:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227221751.02904a90@mail.bright.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1686 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d1a725fa1992e480d7c77979a003e471 Excellent choice! Let's get moving! Jana -----Original Message----- From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:19 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 >From: Alice Gayley >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Holly Timm >Subject: Board Secretary Position >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > >Holly, > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting >volunteers. > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is >an important position that should facilitate communication between the >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move >their board's deliberations along. > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both >PA) USGenWeb sites. > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical >site on the web. > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > >Respectfully submitted, >Alice Gayley > >Board Assistant Comments: > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. >Fully entry for each would be > >Agenda item title >Full text of agenda item >Date submitted >Person submitting >Status (these items would have to be defined) > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05859 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3ilcd002420 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3i8p06707; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:44:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:44:08 -0700 X-Original-Sender: betsym@1starnet.com Wed Feb 27 20:44:07 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227214502.046d2990@mail.1starnet.com> X-Sender: betsym@mail.1starnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:45:39 -0600 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Betsy Mills Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227221751.02904a90@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1688 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 5e56a40333331ef554441cf10d374d93 In the past, this required a board motion to accept the NC's choice. Has that changed? Betsy At 09:12 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote: >Excellent choice! Let's get moving! Jana > >-----Original Message----- >From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:19 PM >To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 > >From: Alice Gayley > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) > >X-Accept-Language: en > >To: Holly Timm > >Subject: Board Secretary Position > >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > > > >Holly, > > > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting > >volunteers. > > > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is > >an important position that should facilitate communication between the > >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. > >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important > >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status > >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move > >their board's deliberations along. > > > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that > >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items > >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments > >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the > >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > > > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project > >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the > >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb > >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both > >PA) USGenWeb sites. > > > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the > >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to > >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something > >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical > >site on the web. > > > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > > > >Respectfully submitted, > >Alice Gayley > > > >Board Assistant Comments: > > > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board > >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions > >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > > > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > > > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those > >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or > >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > > > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence > >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order > >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. > >Fully entry for each would be > > > >Agenda item title > >Full text of agenda item > >Date submitted > >Person submitting > >Status (these items would have to be defined) > > > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become > >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > > > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > > > > >-- > >Alice J. Gayley > >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) > >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ > >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ > >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ > >Pennsylvania in the Civil War > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05916 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3k6cd002587 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3hhl06436; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:43:43 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:43:43 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Feb 27 20:43:43 2002 Message-ID: <008901c1c00a$4da13120$86f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227220931.038a0a40@mail.bright.net> Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:45:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1687 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b63cad4ea2321cc76f3958b3c86a09af Alice is a Wonderful choice. Delighted you selected her! Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: 27 February, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary > > I had three volunteers for the Board Secretary position: > > Kelly Blizzard > "I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily > attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL" > > Caroline House > "I might be able to handle this. I worked several years as a secretary in > academic departments. Since then I've been otherwise employed but I am an > experienced genealogist. My volunteer job at the moment is director of the > LDS Family History Center in Woodland, California and teaching Word for > Windows at the Woodland Senior Center. > > "E-mail, word processing and spread sheets I can do. If there is a lot of > more involved computer work, I would have to see what it was. I can put in > a new CD-ROM drive, but for web pages and things like PowerPoint I am still > at the beginning stage." > > Alice Gayley > from whom I rec'd two messages... the second was lengthier and included most > of what was in the first message. I will forward that message to the > Board right > after sending this. > > Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. > > Holly > > > From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06800 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S3w4cd003958 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S3ukj22971; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:56:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:56:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Feb 27 20:56:46 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:31:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227214502.046d2990@mail.1starnet.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1689 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 20d2d9dcacc344eca607065d6d3febc3 Whoops, if I jumped the gun, excuse me - you are likely correct... sorry if I got ahead of myself. Jana -----Original Message----- From: Betsy Mills [mailto:betsym@1starnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:46 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position In the past, this required a board motion to accept the NC's choice. Has that changed? Betsy At 09:12 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote: >Excellent choice! Let's get moving! Jana > >-----Original Message----- >From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:19 PM >To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 > >From: Alice Gayley > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) > >X-Accept-Language: en > >To: Holly Timm > >Subject: Board Secretary Position > >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > > > >Holly, > > > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting > >volunteers. > > > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is > >an important position that should facilitate communication between the > >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. > >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important > >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status > >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move > >their board's deliberations along. > > > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that > >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items > >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments > >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the > >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > > > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project > >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the > >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb > >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both > >PA) USGenWeb sites. > > > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the > >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to > >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something > >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical > >site on the web. > > > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > > > >Respectfully submitted, > >Alice Gayley > > > >Board Assistant Comments: > > > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board > >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions > >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > > > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > > > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those > >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or > >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > > > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence > >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order > >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. > >Fully entry for each would be > > > >Agenda item title > >Full text of agenda item > >Date submitted > >Person submitting > >Status (these items would have to be defined) > > > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become > >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > > > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > > > > >-- > >Alice J. Gayley > >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) > >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ > >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ > >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ > >Pennsylvania in the Civil War > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA07265 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1DH4Ice004597 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S41Va12976; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:01:31 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:01:31 -0700 X-Original-Sender: IsaiahHarrison@cs.com Wed Feb 27 21:01:30 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020227195726.00a00890@imap.cs.com> X-Sender: IsaiahHarrison@imap.cs.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:57:54 -0800 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Richard Harrison Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227220931.038a0a40@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Apparently-From: IsaiahHarrison@cs.com Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1690 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 602d906c1bf6f6d03dc86de3ea2b9a98 At 10:18 PM 2/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: > Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. > >Holly No objection. -Isaiah From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 06:00:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA08762 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1S4Mgcd006764 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1S4Itb04400; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:18:55 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:18:55 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Feb 27 21:18:54 2002 Message-ID: <010101c1c00f$355cc840$86f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: References: Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:20:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1691 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6d415ab73c7049ee69f174b3df62eb0e Well Jana, when Tim attempted to do this he was stomped thoroughly. And he was not allowed to appoint Roger to the position because the Board would not approve that, Holly you were on the Board at that time weren't you? Surely you remember that? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jana Black" To: Sent: 27 February, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > Whoops, if I jumped the gun, excuse me - you are likely correct... sorry if > I got ahead of myself. Jana > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betsy Mills [mailto:betsym@1starnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:46 PM > To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > > > In the past, this required a board motion to accept the NC's choice. Has > that changed? > > Betsy > > At 09:12 PM 2/27/2002, you wrote: > >Excellent choice! Let's get moving! Jana > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] > >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:19 PM > >To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 > > >From: Alice Gayley > > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) > > >X-Accept-Language: en > > >To: Holly Timm > > >Subject: Board Secretary Position > > >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > > > > > >Holly, > > > > > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting > > >volunteers. > > > > > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is > > >an important position that should facilitate communication between the > > >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. > > >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important > > >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status > > >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move > > >their board's deliberations along. > > > > > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that > > >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items > > >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments > > >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the > > >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > > > > > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project > > >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the > > >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb > > >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both > > >PA) USGenWeb sites. > > > > > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the > > >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to > > >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something > > >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical > > >site on the web. > > > > > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > > > > > >Respectfully submitted, > > >Alice Gayley > > > > > >Board Assistant Comments: > > > > > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board > > >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions > > >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > > > > > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > > > > > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those > > >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or > > >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > > > > > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence > > >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order > > >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. > > >Fully entry for each would be > > > > > >Agenda item title > > >Full text of agenda item > > >Date submitted > > >Person submitting > > >Status (these items would have to be defined) > > > > > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become > > >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > > > > > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Alice J. Gayley > > >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) > > >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project > > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ > > >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project > > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ > > >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project > > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ > > >Pennsylvania in the Civil War > > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > > >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com > > > From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 18:12:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA00577 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1SI4ccd006692 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1SI4AP14642; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:04:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:04:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: wchs@getgoin.net Thu Feb 28 11:04:09 2002 Message-ID: <000b01c1c081$fd74f7e0$5428c141@wchs> From: "Phyllis Rippee" Old-To: Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:01:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1694 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ae0852031c5b7d7b6d2b798c93402274 Whether or not I am in favor of Alice Gayley as Board Secretary, I would like to see previously established procedure used. These comments of no objection, do not even constitute a general consent vote because it wasn't presented that way. However, precedence established that a motion had to be made and voted on to place a person in the Board Secretary's position. Phyllis From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 18:12:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10675 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1SMBpcd011985 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1SMB9D10586; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:11:09 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:11:09 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Thu Feb 28 15:11:08 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020228171105.00e662f0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:13:49 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <000b01c1c081$fd74f7e0$5428c141@wchs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <66LVv.A.TlC.8rqf8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1696 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 385968ac3e02b26fdb4e4b1e90d2eb8a Precedent has been to discuss and generally approve the choice here first as any discussion can not help but involve individuals and often character. This has been followed by a motion and vote on Board-L and that precedence will be followed in this instance as well. At 12:01 PM 2/28/02 -0600, Phyllis Rippee wrote: >Whether or not I am in favor of Alice Gayley as Board Secretary, I would >like to see previously established procedure used. These comments of no >objection, do not even constitute a general consent vote because it wasn't >presented that way. > >However, precedence established that a motion had to be made and voted on to >place a person in the Board Secretary's position. > >Phyllis From ???@??? Thu Feb 28 18:12:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10852 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1SC5kcd019463 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1SC3Tt14195; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:03:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:03:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: ky.quest@gte.net Thu Feb 28 05:03:28 2002 Message-ID: <008501c1c04f$ee9731c0$6401a8c0@Diane> From: "Diane M. Parsons" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020227220931.038a0a40@mail.bright.net> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:03:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Re: Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1693 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8fedbc1d8f851024997b9e7e822a89be Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 No objections from me. Diane Parsons > Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. > > Holly > > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 00:07:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01675 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g262BKAp010862 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g262ARB03411; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:27 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:27 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Tue Mar 5 19:10:27 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020305210808.03e47340@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:13:17 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1730 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4b03c0c696b4db539b74b75568c8f8f0 Originally sent Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:35 -0500 resent per Teresa's request: ------------------------------- I had three volunteers for the Board Secretary position: Kelly Blizzard "I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL" Caroline House "I might be able to handle this. I worked several years as a secretary in academic departments. Since then I've been otherwise employed but I am an experienced genealogist. My volunteer job at the moment is director of the LDS Family History Center in Woodland, California and teaching Word for Windows at the Woodland Senior Center. "E-mail, word processing and spread sheets I can do. If there is a lot of more involved computer work, I would have to see what it was. I can put in a new CD-ROM drive, but for web pages and things like PowerPoint I am still at the beginning stage." Alice Gayley from whom I rec'd two messages... the second was lengthier and included most of what was in the first message. I will forward that message to the Board right after sending this. Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. Holly From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 00:07:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01822 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g262C0Ap010925 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g262AXR03545; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Tue Mar 5 19:10:33 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020305211209.03e4eaa0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:13:22 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Resent-Message-ID: <9iqH8.A.I3.ZqXh8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1731 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 59e26bce7ce28286d41f391bf79efa0a Originally sent Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:38 -0500 sent again per Teresa's request ----------------------------------- >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 >From: Alice Gayley >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Holly Timm >Subject: Board Secretary Position >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > >Holly, > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting >volunteers. > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is >an important position that should facilitate communication between the >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move >their board's deliberations along. > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both >PA) USGenWeb sites. > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical >site on the web. > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > >Respectfully submitted, >Alice Gayley > >Board Assistant Comments: > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. >Fully entry for each would be > >Agenda item title >Full text of agenda item >Date submitted >Person submitting >Status (these items would have to be defined) > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 06:13:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18932 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g265NAAp001732 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g265LOe19105; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:21:24 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:21:24 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Tue Mar 5 22:21:23 2002 Message-ID: <02fc01c1c4ce$efa109a0$90f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: "Board-Exec" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:22:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Secretary Resent-Message-ID: <77PdyB.A.WqE.Udah8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1735 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 291d75fd9b398a0e6f765f9fd78ea1ef Hi Holly, Just got in from KC and trying to catch-up with tons of email. Kelly is very fluent in the computer ability department, surely she would be able to handle the Secretary position. Also she knows everyone on most all of the lists and might be a great addition. She is working with Terria and several others and does alot of transcribing and should be able to handle Keith's SW Program. Do you have her qualifications? I notice there are qualicafications posted for the other two candidates. Kathy "The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves to be told." Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05430 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26FRiAp002290 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26FRDb28996; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:27:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:27:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: betsym@1starnet.com Wed Mar 6 08:27:13 2002 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:27:10 -0600 Message-Id: <200203060927.AA6619240@1starnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Betsy Mills" Reply-To: Old-To: Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: <4zkywD.A.5EH.RVjh8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1743 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 060827f28930252c30fdb110e3d302ac Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 It appears those first messages didn't get to the list just as other mail that you have sent lately didn't get to the list. I believe in the past, the qualifications of the person selected WERE posted to the board-l along with or as support for why the NC selected that person. I don't think the other names of the persons NOT chosen were posted to the board list. I guess it is the attitude right now from several of the AB members that the business of this project has to be handled in a cold, sterile "by the book" manner. I disagree. I need to know that Alice is a person you (and the rest of the board) can get along with and work with and why you think that. Betsy ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Holly Timm Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:02:52 -0500 >Okay, what's going on? I posted the volunteers for the Board Secretary >position here and what they had written. Candidates for the position have >always been discussed here as a personnel matter and then approved by >motion on Board-L. There was no discussion and no objection to my choice >here. No question as to why I chose the one I did and in fact at least two >of you who voted no on the motion were agreeable here on exec. > >What is the objection to Alice? > >Holly > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25091 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26ML5Ap027416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26MIxN11535; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:18:59 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:18:59 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 15:18:59 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306170209.0398bba0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:21:47 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <006e01c1c512$65c9ed20$88f499cd@sasnak.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306065952.02fa2610@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1747 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 64ca219e27172e79a2bb770d8b8ad54f At 07:24 AM 3/6/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: >Good Morning Holly, > Sorry to upset, but. There were qualifications for Alice, and Caroline >House. There were no qualifications for Kelly, just a statement that she >desired to become Board Sec. I posted the messages received from the three volunteers which were responses to the request for volunteers. I posted only Alice's second message as it was an expansion of her first as she states at the beginning of second, "I sent my last message before I really read message requesting volunteers." There was no additional communication or discussions with any of the three. You have seen all I heard from all three of them on the matter except for the brief message I got from Alice when I checked with her that she was still interested just before posting my choice here on Exec. Part of my reasons for my choice was the quality of the response to the request for volunteers where I asked them to write "giving their qualifications and thoughts about the position." In my opinion, Alice's first response alone was more responsive to the initial question and showed more awareness of the actual position than either of the other two and I have pasted it below as well. Her unsolicited second response posted earlier showed even more thought and consideration of what the position actually entails. >I am not trying to be difficult and hold things >up but as Kelly has been the topic of conversation on this list for the past >month, I truly feel that we should know if she is qualified for this >position and perhaps should receive consideration. Also as we do have the >emails from the other two we should cover ourselves and have one from Kelly, >do you have communication from her with her qualifications listed? With the inclusion below of Alice's first message you have seen all I received from all three of them. > That was the basis for my vote. I do not have one thing against Alice as >most of you know, but I do think we need to know a bit more about Kelly. ----------------------------------- Alice's first response: ----------------------------------- Holly, I am willing to serve the National Coordinator and the Advisory Board as the Board Secretary. I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence (other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. Fully entry for each would be Agenda item title Full text of agenda item Date submitted Person submitting Status (these items would have to be defined) Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become a weekly report would be at your discretion. Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. Alice Gayley From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25288 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26MNQAp027815 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26MMrb14589; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:22:53 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:22:53 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 15:22:53 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306172249.03d1e4e0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:25:48 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020306075209.020578c0@mail.chattanooga.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306065952.02fa2610@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1748 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e0ff9ec2cdd60ca615cc985547f8f7d2 At 07:52 AM 3/6/02 -0500, Tim Stowell wrote: >At 07:02 AM 3/6/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Okay, what's going on? I posted the volunteers for the Board Secretary > >position here and what they had written. Candidates for the position have > >always been discussed here as a personnel matter and then approved by > >motion on Board-L. There was no discussion and no objection to my choice > >here. No question as to why I chose the one I did and in fact at least two > >of you who voted no on the motion were agreeable here on exec. > > > >What is the objection to Alice? > > > >Holly > >We aren't supposed to question each other's votes and neither should you. I am not questioning any individual votes. I am simply confused why there was no discussion or objection here and several stated approval and then suddenly seven of you vote no. This is a personnel issue and as such was brought up here on Exec for discussion as has always been done with the motion for approval itself to be done on Board-L. Holly From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:42:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26279 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26MX0Ap029074 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26MVsl22623; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:31:54 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:31:54 -0700 X-Original-Sender: pamreid@comcast.net Wed Mar 6 15:31:54 2002 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:31:46 -0500 From: Pam Reid Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306170209.0398bba0@mail.bright.net> Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <0RUMT.A.QhF.ajph8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1749 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8b921da47bdd1a112ff935afa2ab2007 I agree with Holly on her reasons for choosing Alice. It seems very reasonable to me. -----Original Message----- From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:22 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary At 07:24 AM 3/6/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: >Good Morning Holly, > Sorry to upset, but. There were qualifications for Alice, and Caroline >House. There were no qualifications for Kelly, just a statement that she >desired to become Board Sec. I posted the messages received from the three volunteers which were responses to the request for volunteers. I posted only Alice's second message as it was an expansion of her first as she states at the beginning of second, "I sent my last message before I really read message requesting volunteers." There was no additional communication or discussions with any of the three. You have seen all I heard from all three of them on the matter except for the brief message I got from Alice when I checked with her that she was still interested just before posting my choice here on Exec. Part of my reasons for my choice was the quality of the response to the request for volunteers where I asked them to write "giving their qualifications and thoughts about the position." In my opinion, Alice's first response alone was more responsive to the initial question and showed more awareness of the actual position than either of the other two and I have pasted it below as well. Her unsolicited second response posted earlier showed even more thought and consideration of what the position actually entails. >I am not trying to be difficult and hold things >up but as Kelly has been the topic of conversation on this list for the past >month, I truly feel that we should know if she is qualified for this >position and perhaps should receive consideration. Also as we do have the >emails from the other two we should cover ourselves and have one from Kelly, >do you have communication from her with her qualifications listed? With the inclusion below of Alice's first message you have seen all I received from all three of them. > That was the basis for my vote. I do not have one thing against Alice as >most of you know, but I do think we need to know a bit more about Kelly. ----------------------------------- Alice's first response: ----------------------------------- Holly, I am willing to serve the National Coordinator and the Advisory Board as the Board Secretary. I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence (other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. Fully entry for each would be Agenda item title Full text of agenda item Date submitted Person submitting Status (these items would have to be defined) Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become a weekly report would be at your discretion. Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. Alice Gayley From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28046 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26MoSAp001479 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26MmT008543; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:48:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:48:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: wchs@getgoin.net Wed Mar 6 15:48:29 2002 Message-ID: <003801c1c560$ab2bef00$d7967a3f@wchs> From: "Phyllis Rippee" Old-To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:45:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: <-bhCx.A.RFC.9yph8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1750 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 26202c9e620c07ff158803301a0b884e Maybe we just didn't have anything we wanted to say. Your explanation of casting Teresa's "opinion" on the grievance issue because she doesn't believe in using Board-Exec (which constituted a proxy vote that you "outlawed" previously) would have been an explanation why she didn't comment. Turns out she didn't get what you had posted, but if she had and had wanted to say something, you would have had to serve as a conduit. Not only that, but in previous votes on motions, you have called them when it was obvious they had passed or failed. I do believe that, even though Teresa has withdrawn her vote and may change it, Alice has been turned down. Phyllis From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02046 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26NOIAp006535 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26NLXc04772; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:21:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:21:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: tngibson@att.net Wed Mar 6 16:21:33 2002 Message-ID: <050901c1c565$71c6b060$745bfea9@vaio> Reply-To: "Vicki" From: "Vicki" Old-To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:19:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] qualifications Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1751 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f84f2a9694a05b940e2a9eeebd002088 I honestly never received any qualifications for Board Secretary. I just received Alice's qualifications that Holly just posted. Holly, could you resend the others? Thanks, Vicki From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA03499 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26Nc8Ap008246 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26Nbcr22089; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:37:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:37:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 16:37:37 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306183803.02698aa0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:40:27 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <003801c1c560$ab2bef00$d7967a3f@wchs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1752 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 091df4a3e1af85cbdb6659bce493bfe4 At 04:45 PM 3/6/02 -0600, Phyllis Rippee wrote: >Maybe we just didn't have anything we wanted to say. > >Your explanation of casting Teresa's "opinion" on the grievance issue >because she doesn't believe in using Board-Exec (which constituted a proxy >vote that you "outlawed" previously) would have been an explanation why she >didn't comment. Turns out she didn't get what you had posted, but if she >had and had wanted to say something, you would have had to serve as a >conduit. I posted only her "vote" (choice of statement). I did not post her further comment that she also sent afterwards. If she wishes to join the discussion she knows how to post here. A fine line perhaps but it is the one I have drawn regarding her participation on matters addressed here. >Not only that, but in previous votes on motions, you have called them when >it was obvious they had passed or failed. I do believe that, even though >Teresa has withdrawn her vote and may change it, Alice has been turned down. Not all votes were in when I left for work. I have been home only a little while and have been trying to read everything, respond to some and get dinner started. I posted that the motion failed and went to eat dinner. Holly From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA04616 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26NnnAp009668 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26NmeP31876; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:48:40 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:48:40 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 16:48:40 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306185109.024814a0@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:51:29 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1753 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6261ae7725bee64d0ca0bd6832cfc2a8 and again at Vicki's request Originally sent Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:35 -0500 resent per Teresa's request: ------------------------------- I had three volunteers for the Board Secretary position: Kelly Blizzard "I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL" Caroline House "I might be able to handle this. I worked several years as a secretary in academic departments. Since then I've been otherwise employed but I am an experienced genealogist. My volunteer job at the moment is director of the LDS Family History Center in Woodland, California and teaching Word for Windows at the Woodland Senior Center. "E-mail, word processing and spread sheets I can do. If there is a lot of more involved computer work, I would have to see what it was. I can put in a new CD-ROM drive, but for web pages and things like PowerPoint I am still at the beginning stage." Alice Gayley from whom I rec'd two messages... the second was lengthier and included most of what was in the first message. I will forward that message to the Board right after sending this. Alice is my choice and I ask for your approval. Holly From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA04900 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26NqZAp010019 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26Nmjx32115; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:48:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:48:45 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 16:48:44 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:51:33 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1754 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f9654292b3f07b339987d15be5231706 and sent again at Vicki's request Originally sent Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:38 -0500 sent again per Teresa's request ----------------------------------- >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 >From: Alice Gayley >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Holly Timm >Subject: Board Secretary Position >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > >Holly, > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting >volunteers. > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is >an important position that should facilitate communication between the >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move >their board's deliberations along. > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both >PA) USGenWeb sites. > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical >site on the web. > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > >Respectfully submitted, >Alice Gayley > >Board Assistant Comments: > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. >Fully entry for each would be > >Agenda item title >Full text of agenda item >Date submitted >Person submitting >Status (these items would have to be defined) > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06111 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2704xAp011561 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26NxxU12884; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:59:59 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:59:59 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Mar 6 16:59:58 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:04:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1755 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 09717eb25f1f610fc1e78bbd21fc45f4 So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new slate???? Jana -----Original Message----- From: Holly Timm [mailto:hollyft@bright.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:52 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position and sent again at Vicki's request Originally sent Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:18:38 -0500 sent again per Teresa's request ----------------------------------- >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:15:19 -0600 >From: Alice Gayley >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Holly Timm >Subject: Board Secretary Position >X-postini-filters: (C:0.5788083 S:0.4379423 ) > >Holly, > >I sent my last message before I really read message requesting >volunteers. > >I would like to serve as the Board Secretary because I think it is >an important position that should facilitate communication between the >National Coordinator and the members of the Advisory Board. >The NC and the Board are addressing many issues that are important >to the USGenWeb project and having up to date information on the status >of the business of the virtual meeting would, in my mind, help move >their board's deliberations along. > >I downloaded Keith Giddeon's BOard Assistant and my comments on that >follow. It has also been suggested that keeping a list of agenda items >would also be helpful to the NC and the Board. I concur and my comments >on that also follow. (Both my comments on Board Assistant and the >Agenda were covered in my first email to you.) > >As for my qualification, I have been a member of the USGenWeb Project >since the year (1998?) the By-Laws were introduced and voted upon by the >full membership. I am the CC for the Clearfield County (PA) USGenWeb >Project, and co-CC for the Armstrong County and Jefferson County (Both >PA) USGenWeb sites. > >I have been occasionally vocal on the -All list and daily follow the >Board's deliberations and email. I would welcome the opportunity to >serve as the BOard Secretary; it would be my chance to "give" something >to the effort to make the USGenWeb Project the premiere genealogical >site on the web. > >I am retired so that I have time available to assist the NC and AB. > >Respectfully submitted, >Alice Gayley > >Board Assistant Comments: > >I have downloaded and "played around" with Keith Giddeon's Board >Assistant, and find it to be an excellent tool. Have a few questions >about how it operates that I need to address with Keith. > >Comments on maintaining an Agenda for the Board: > >If it is your pleasure to tract "agenda items" both your own and those >raised by the AB, I would proposed to keep these on a web site or >message board where it/they could be accessed by the AB. > >My thinking is that agenda items do not require any order of precedence >(other than perhaps date of submission) so these could be kept in order >by date of submission or alphabetically by a short title. >Fully entry for each would be > >Agenda item title >Full text of agenda item >Date submitted >Person submitting >Status (these items would have to be defined) > >Whether the agenda would be kept on the National Gen Web page or become >a weekly report would be at your discretion. > >Anyway, I stand ready to serve should you desire my services. > > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >I feel like I have a PBS mind in an MTV world. (Source unknown) >Coordinator, Clearfield County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/ >Co-Coordinator, Armstrong County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~armstrong/ >Co-Coordinator, Jefferson County USGenWeb Project >http://www.pa-roots.com/~jefferson/ >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ >Co-Owner, pa-roots.com From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06764 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g270DEAp012450 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g270CMr22155; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:12:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:12:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 17:12:22 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306191055.03d44c40@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 19:15:13 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1756 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 51929c39cef0de3419b9ff7284c815c4 At 01:04 PM 3/6/02 -0800, Jana Black wrote: >So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new >slate???? Jana No, the motion may be reconsidered or renewed by being reintroduced (pgs 29 & 38 in Sturgis). But, there is no point in doing so unless there is some indications some minds have changed. I am and was more than willing to discuss my choice on here. From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08334 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g270RSAp014250 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g270Not04671; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:23:50 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:23:50 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mo-bogart@att.net Wed Mar 6 17:23:50 2002 Message-ID: <055d01c1c56e$05fb1520$745bfea9@vaio> Reply-To: "Vicki" From: "Vicki" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20020306191055.03d44c40@mail.bright.net> Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:21:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1757 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ba264624a17c3ec28251878d78b8b21f So does that mean that Alice was the only choice you will even consider? Will the only way we can have another Board Secretary be to change our minds about her? Please explain a little more. And BTW, thank you for resending qualifications. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > At 01:04 PM 3/6/02 -0800, Jana Black wrote: > >So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new > >slate???? Jana > > No, the motion may be reconsidered or renewed by being reintroduced (pgs 29 > & 38 in Sturgis). But, there is no point in doing so unless there is some > indications some minds have changed. I am and was more than willing to > discuss my choice on here. > > > > > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:11:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA11349 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g270xjAp018193 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g270vb210092; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:57:37 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:57:37 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Mar 6 17:57:37 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: "Vicki" , Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:58:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <055d01c1c56e$05fb1520$745bfea9@vaio> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1758 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4a8d649bde19f0de528ccc3f6a8f3dbe Everyone, My primary concern at this point is that the implicit message that has gone out publicly (the AB rejected Alice) is simply not true. I do not get why we are here now.... Holly asked for input and none came in but for "no comment" comments...... How could Holly know anything differently. I think it is shameful to have made it appear that we rejected a good working volunteer and this will not serve us well over time. This IS a *personnel* matter and Teresa, if you do not choose to participate on Exec, fine, but attempting to compromise the rest of us and bring discussion to the level where you choose to participate is unacceptable. We are evaluating a potential worker. The fact that you want to call Exec a "secret" list can certainly continue to be your game/ply/whatever, but Sturgis clearly outlines that we ought to handle personnel matters in closed session. I do not understand why the questions that seem to be coming up now were not asked before... Will some of those who did not want to choose Alice please offer why???? If so many of you had specific reasons not to choose Alice, I wish you would have given those of us who like what they see so far your input. I came out on ALL this AM saying none of you were being "petty," as Ginger tried to allude. I hope you will not rub my nose in it and prove otherwise. Why are you rejecting Alice???? What Kelly sent was NOT her *qualifications*, despite what the NC's instructions were - quote: "Those who are interested should write Holly Timm, the National Coordinator, at hollyft@bright.net giving their qualifications and thoughts about the position." Holly received what she received and she showed it to us and asked for comment. Part of selecting involves looking at what a potential candidate chooses to say about themselves in the position they are going for. That Kelly did not offer qualifications is an indication on its own of her level of sophistication and professionalism. Two of the three volunteers offered qualifications, Kelly did not - Looking at the difference in quality between the three is a no-brainer to me (and Kelly and I get along just fine....it is not personal). I will never forget the time as part of a hiring committee, we received a letter indicating interest in the job from someone we all *knew* was very well qualified. We looked forward to interviewing her and figured she was a shoo-in. When the day came for us to go over all the submitted the resumes, we realized that her application alone did not include a resume.... As a result, she did not get interviewed, she did not get the job and she was furious. When told she had not made it to the interview stage because she had not submitted a complete application packet, her response was, "Well, it didn't say a resume was *required* and I have been really busy and you all know me anyway...." Not a very professional approach - BTW, the person we did hire ended up being the best thing that had come along in a coon's age.... shrug. Jana -----Original Message----- From: Vicki [mailto:mo-bogart@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:21 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position So does that mean that Alice was the only choice you will even consider? Will the only way we can have another Board Secretary be to change our minds about her? Please explain a little more. And BTW, thank you for resending qualifications. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > At 01:04 PM 3/6/02 -0800, Jana Black wrote: > >So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new > >slate???? Jana > > No, the motion may be reconsidered or renewed by being reintroduced (pgs 29 > & 38 in Sturgis). But, there is no point in doing so unless there is some > indications some minds have changed. I am and was more than willing to > discuss my choice on here. > > > > > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 20:20:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11981 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2715vAp019060 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2711gS19039; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:01:42 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:01:42 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 18:01:42 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306194457.03b9ab90@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:04:32 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position In-Reply-To: <055d01c1c56e$05fb1520$745bfea9@vaio> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20020306191055.03d44c40@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <_mT7CD.A.RpE.2vrh8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1759 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a5dbf361f3df55cc59e5e670d8576cc0 At 06:21 PM 3/6/02 -0600, Vicki wrote: >So does that mean that Alice was the only choice you will even consider? Alice was the only one of the three that I found to be a viable candidate. Kelly didn't pay enough attention to the request to respond appropriately which is not unlike her. I have known Kelly a long time and would not be comfortable working with her. Just in case anyone wishes to relate my opinion of Kelly as Board Secretary to the present grievance, I wouldn't choose Kelly as a Co-CC for myself either but if one of my CC's in NY chose her I would accept that. If they can work directly with her fine, I can't. Caroline's message was brief but did address the qualifications more than Kelly's did. I know absolutely nothing about her but since one of the main items desired by this board is an agenda posting which means maintaining a web page or board, her admitted lack of web skills is a definite drawback. I've known Alice for some time as well in this project although not worked directly with her. She writes clearly, seems to pay attention to what is said and wrote with some excellent thoughts about the duties of the position and follows directions. Holly >Will the only way we can have another Board Secretary be to change our minds >about her? Please explain a little more. > >And BTW, thank you for resending qualifications. > >Vicki >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Holly Timm" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:15 PM >Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position > > > > At 01:04 PM 3/6/02 -0800, Jana Black wrote: > > >So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new > > >slate???? Jana > > > > No, the motion may be reconsidered or renewed by being reintroduced (pgs >29 > > & 38 in Sturgis). But, there is no point in doing so unless there is some > > indications some minds have changed. I am and was more than willing to > > discuss my choice on here. > > > > > > > > > > > > From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA26148 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g273tNAp008533 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g273ssD26314; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:54:54 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:54:54 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Mar 6 20:54:54 2002 Message-ID: <014a01c1c58b$faec4a00$93f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: References: Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position/Teresa Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:55:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1762 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a2b081cf678b003c69939ac3fa444aab ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jana Black" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position snipped: > Everyone, > >> This IS a *personnel* matter and Teresa, if you do not choose to participate > on Exec, fine, but attempting to compromise the rest of us and bring > discussion to the level where you choose to participate is unacceptable. We > are evaluating a potential worker. The fact that you want to call Exec a > "secret" list can certainly continue to be your game/ply/whatever, but > Sturgis clearly outlines that we ought to handle personnel matters in closed > session. Jana, I am still struggling to catch up with email after being gone for 3 days. I just want to reintegrate that if *ANYTHING* leaves Board Exec and is posted on Board or ALL or DBS without the approval of each of us, I will be posting every message that pertains to the "conversation" on the open lists myself. If one of us can do this without reprisal then in my estimation any of us should be allowed the same privilege! I am sick of this double standard, Teresa is no different than I am and I am no longer willing to make an exception for her, it just reinforces her lack of respect for us and her office. Kathy From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 07:13:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16930 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26C0XAp007232 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26C05203077; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:00:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:00:05 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Wed Mar 6 05:00:05 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306065952.02fa2610@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:02:52 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1736 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0c2343c4e9edee1b7ffd0ee5c8384b39 Okay, what's going on? I posted the volunteers for the Board Secretary position here and what they had written. Candidates for the position have always been discussed here as a personnel matter and then approved by motion on Board-L. There was no discussion and no objection to my choice here. No question as to why I chose the one I did and in fact at least two of you who voted no on the motion were agreeable here on exec. What is the objection to Alice? Holly From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA20462 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26CoZAp012282 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26CoFd24324; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:50:15 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:50:15 -0700 X-Original-Sender: tstowell@chattanooga.net Wed Mar 6 05:50:15 2002 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020306075209.020578c0@mail.chattanooga.net> X-Sender: tstowell@mail.chattanooga.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:52:09 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Stowell Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306065952.02fa2610@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <0bsJY.A.27F.HChh8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1739 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ee4343659e7763351b0bd725392ff928 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 At 07:02 AM 3/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >Okay, what's going on? I posted the volunteers for the Board Secretary >position here and what they had written. Candidates for the position have >always been discussed here as a personnel matter and then approved by >motion on Board-L. There was no discussion and no objection to my choice >here. No question as to why I chose the one I did and in fact at least two >of you who voted no on the motion were agreeable here on exec. > >What is the objection to Alice? > >Holly We aren't supposed to question each other's votes and neither should you. Tim From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23369 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26DPMAp016296 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26DOIl05810; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:24:18 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:24:18 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Mar 6 06:24:18 2002 Message-ID: <006e01c1c512$65c9ed20$88f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306065952.02fa2610@mail.bright.net> Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:24:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1740 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6bcfe57123b1a99186ea5f56166a634a Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 Good Morning Holly, Sorry to upset, but. There were qualifications for Alice, and Caroline House. There were no qualifications for Kelly, just a statement that she desired to become Board Sec. I am not trying to be difficult and hold things up but as Kelly has been the topic of conversation on this list for the past month, I truly feel that we should know if she is qualified for this position and perhaps should receive consideration. Also as we do have the emails from the other two we should cover ourselves and have one from Kelly, do you have communication from her with her qualifications listed? That was the basis for my vote. I do not have one thing against Alice as most of you know, but I do think we need to know a bit more about Kelly. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:02 AM Subject: [Board-Exec] Board Secretary > Okay, what's going on? I posted the volunteers for the Board Secretary > position here and what they had written. Candidates for the position have > always been discussed here as a personnel matter and then approved by > motion on Board-L. There was no discussion and no objection to my choice > here. No question as to why I chose the one I did and in fact at least two > of you who voted no on the motion were agreeable here on exec. > > What is the objection to Alice? > > Holly > > From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24645 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g273YBAp006292 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g273WcO28470; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:32:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:32:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Mar 6 20:32:38 2002 Message-ID: <010001c1c588$de702480$93f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: "Board-Exec" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:33:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Alice and Teresa Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1760 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 854be6de6b721efc3b30a437063d4994 Holly, I wrote and asked about qualifications of the applicants because I wanted to make certain I had not missed information I thank you for forwarding them to the list. I will be happy to cast my vote for Alice since reviewing and making certain that the others had equal opportunity to list qualifications. I am terribly sorry that Teresa chose to tell all again and I truly wish that this would stop. Apparently the disciplinary action take on behalf of the EC didn't make any difference to her. I don't believe that it is fair for her to be allowed to continue to report in any way what we are discussing. I would also suggest that if she chooses to not take part in the Board Exec List and airs her distain that she not be on the Board Ex mail list and not be allowed to take part in any votes thereon. Please address this. On page 109 of Alice Sturgis states: "The minutes of a closed session are available only to those authorized to attend the session, unless the assembly, the board, or the committee votes to make them available to the membership. Teresa is in direct violation of our Exec Session. Kathy Heidel "The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves to be told." Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25043 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g273f2Ap006944 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g273d4v10226; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:39:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:39:04 -0700 X-Original-Sender: betsym@1starnet.com Wed Mar 6 20:39:03 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306213533.04802840@mail.1starnet.com> X-Sender: betsym@mail.1starnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:39:44 -0600 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Betsy Mills Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Alice and Teresa In-Reply-To: <010001c1c588$de702480$93f499cd@sasnak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1761 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a2000c6976a3da231ce702ee154e2857 I agree with Kathy in both matters. I have been writing and re-writing this all evening. I object to the NC forwarding messages/votes for Ms. Lindquist to this list. Exactly what is Ms. Lindquist accomplishing with this? She thinks she is not lying to her followers when she says she isn't taking part in the "secret" list???? Horse pookey!!! She is listening AND voting AND posting her reports to outside resources which is in violation of Parliamentary Procedure. I respectfully ask the NC to cease and desist aiding Ms. Lindquist in this deception. Betsy At 09:33 PM 3/6/2002, you wrote: >Holly, > I wrote and asked about qualifications of the applicants because I >wanted to make certain I had not missed information I thank you for >forwarding them to the list. I will be happy to cast my vote for Alice since >reviewing and making certain that the others had equal opportunity to list >qualifications. > > I am terribly sorry that Teresa chose to tell all again and I truly wish >that this would stop. Apparently the disciplinary action take on behalf of >the EC didn't make any difference to her. I don't believe that it is fair >for her to be allowed to continue to report in any way what we are >discussing. I would also suggest that if she chooses to not take part in the >Board Exec List and airs her distain that she not be on the Board Ex mail >list and not be allowed to take part in any votes thereon. Please address >this. > On page 109 of Alice Sturgis states: "The minutes of a closed session >are available only to those authorized to attend the session, unless the >assembly, the board, or the committee votes to make them available to the >membership. Teresa is in direct violation of our Exec Session. >Kathy Heidel > >"The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves >to be told." >Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28760 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g274S4Ap011896 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g274RGD23857; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:27:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:27:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Wed Mar 6 21:27:15 2002 Message-ID: <017f01c1c590$7fa0ed60$93f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: "Board-Exec" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:28:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Corrected statement Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1764 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 798c90d9a56d4c2367b115f8b9a45843 Sorry about spellchecker and reintegrate and reiterate. Jana, I am still struggling to catch up with email after being gone for 3 days. I just want to reiterate that if *ANYTHING* leaves Board Exec and is posted on Board or ALL or DBS without the approval of each of us, I will be posting every message that pertains to the "conversation" on the open lists myself. If one of us can do this without reprisal then in my estimation any of us should be allowed the same privilege! I am sick of this double standard, Teresa is no different than I am and I am no longer willing to make an exception for her, it just reinforces her lack of respect for us and her office. Kathy "The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves to be told." Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA00023 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g274gMAp013454 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g274fRx10978; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:41:27 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:41:27 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Mar 6 21:41:27 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Corrected statement Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:27:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <017f01c1c590$7fa0ed60$93f499cd@sasnak.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1765 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ffc7b1b18dd4111d234da62eec707a9c Anhh, don't worry about it - have you noted that USGW comes out as USAGE with the help of the spell checker??? My only comment here is what my mommy told me - "two wrongs do not make a right...." I would hate to see you injure anyone else just to smack Teresa. I do fully agree that it is time for the NC to use her authority to take care of Teresa's leaks for the remaining time we have. Jana -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Heidel [mailto:kheidel@tri.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:28 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Board-Exec] Corrected statement Sorry about spellchecker and reintegrate and reiterate. Jana, I am still struggling to catch up with email after being gone for 3 days. I just want to reiterate that if *ANYTHING* leaves Board Exec and is posted on Board or ALL or DBS without the approval of each of us, I will be posting every message that pertains to the "conversation" on the open lists myself. If one of us can do this without reprisal then in my estimation any of us should be allowed the same privilege! I am sick of this double standard, Teresa is no different than I am and I am no longer willing to make an exception for her, it just reinforces her lack of respect for us and her office. Kathy "The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves to be told." Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 06:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA00501 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g274lVAp014051 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:47:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g274ku218271; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:46:56 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:46:56 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Wed Mar 6 21:46:56 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Alice and Teresa Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:31:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306213533.04802840@mail.1starnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1766 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7c29efac15555be4245df48b96931e71 I add my voice as well in agreement! Teresa, Betsy is correct, it is time for the games to end. Do you really think your constituents are too dumb not to see through what you are trying to pull? Guess again. If you think the rest of us will not tell the truth, guess again. What you are doing is childish. You have such a good mind - what a shame that you will not let go of this. So, does this mean we now have 8Y - 4N and 2NV??? (Mary Ann, if you voted, I did not see it again - apologies in advance!!!) Jana -----Original Message----- From: Betsy Mills [mailto:betsym@1starnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:40 PM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Alice and Teresa I agree with Kathy in both matters. I have been writing and re-writing this all evening. I object to the NC forwarding messages/votes for Ms. Lindquist to this list. Exactly what is Ms. Lindquist accomplishing with this? She thinks she is not lying to her followers when she says she isn't taking part in the "secret" list???? Horse pookey!!! She is listening AND voting AND posting her reports to outside resources which is in violation of Parliamentary Procedure. I respectfully ask the NC to cease and desist aiding Ms. Lindquist in this deception. Betsy At 09:33 PM 3/6/2002, you wrote: >Holly, > I wrote and asked about qualifications of the applicants because I >wanted to make certain I had not missed information I thank you for >forwarding them to the list. I will be happy to cast my vote for Alice since >reviewing and making certain that the others had equal opportunity to list >qualifications. > > I am terribly sorry that Teresa chose to tell all again and I truly wish >that this would stop. Apparently the disciplinary action take on behalf of >the EC didn't make any difference to her. I don't believe that it is fair >for her to be allowed to continue to report in any way what we are >discussing. I would also suggest that if she chooses to not take part in the >Board Exec List and airs her distain that she not be on the Board Ex mail >list and not be allowed to take part in any votes thereon. Please address >this. > On page 109 of Alice Sturgis states: "The minutes of a closed session >are available only to those authorized to attend the session, unless the >assembly, the board, or the committee votes to make them available to the >membership. Teresa is in direct violation of our Exec Session. >Kathy Heidel > >"The world is full of stories, and from time to time they permit themselves >to be told." >Old Cherokee Saying From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 17:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01658 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g27CYCAp026497 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g27CXrG18219; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:33:53 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:33:53 -0700 X-Original-Sender: tstowell@chattanooga.net Thu Mar 7 05:33:53 2002 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020307063730.00854350@mail.chattanooga.net> X-Sender: tstowell@mail.chattanooga.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 06:37:30 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Tim Stowell Subject: RE: [Board-Exec] Fwd: Board Secretary Position In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306191055.03d44c40@mail.bright.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020306184919.0268bd20@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <0dCcRC.A.dcE.x41h8@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1770 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6c181751f2a423ca9529c7aa6fcfa507 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 At 07:15 PM 3/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >At 01:04 PM 3/6/02 -0800, Jana Black wrote: >>So, Holly, now what???? Do we have to repeat the call and develop a new >>slate???? Jana > >No, the motion may be reconsidered or renewed by being reintroduced (pgs 29 >& 38 in Sturgis). But, there is no point in doing so unless there is some >indications some minds have changed. I am and was more than willing to >discuss my choice on here. Why not Ms. House? She apparently comes with NO baggage, is willing to learn and seems to show that she has had secretarial experience. Tim From ???@??? Thu Mar 07 17:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA07556 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g27DbxAp003767 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g27DWZj27694; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:32:35 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:32:35 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Thu Mar 7 06:32:34 2002 Message-ID: <009001c1c5dc$b8f00820$88f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: "Board-Exec" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:33:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary - VOTE Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1771 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ca5f32dd001075dea13d425ab280cba4 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 This msg really upset me Holly because Mary Ann rarely ventures an opinion, and because of Teresa she just got a come-upins from you. This is why Teresa needs to either participate on the Board Exec list for these matters or not at all, it is too easy to hit reply and then be needlessly embarrassed. I am not being hateful or disrespectful, I just do not understand why Teresa is allowed privileges that potentially harm us or the membership. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:33 AM snipped Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary - VOTE > discussion of personnel matters and qualifications belongs on the exec > list, if you wish to discuss same, take your discussion there > > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 06:57:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA15560 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28BmgAp009758 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28BmGh04846; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 04:48:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 04:48:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Fri Mar 8 04:48:15 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020308064937.025b3600@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:51:04 -0500 Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary - VOTE In-Reply-To: <009001c1c5dc$b8f00820$88f499cd@sasnak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1776 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 955d0d2b2cc1baa267681f9e60bec80f At 07:33 AM 3/7/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: >This msg really upset me Holly because Mary Ann rarely ventures an opinion, >and because of Teresa she just got a come-upins from you. This is why Teresa >needs to either participate on the Board Exec list for these matters or not >at all, it is too easy to hit reply and then be needlessly embarrassed. I am >not being hateful or disrespectful, I just do not understand why Teresa is >allowed privileges that potentially harm us or the membership. privileges? It was Teresa's message I used to make this reply. From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 09:37:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA25463 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28E5wAp023787 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28E5cT10135; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:05:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:05:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Fri Mar 8 07:05:38 2002 Message-ID: <00a901c1c6aa$81c9a3a0$83f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020308065952.03b8c380@mail.bright.net> Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary - VOTE Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:06:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1778 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 513a971de8b6f27db36ffc6e89a21aa8 Holly and Teresa, I would suggest that this be taken to Board List. I will no longer participate in Board Exec until all members do so. I do not mind doing business in the open, in fact I would much rather do so, then everyone will be aware and can make up their mind if there is something wrong. And I am quite certain that Teresa will agree with me since she is unwilling to respond to this list and will only use Board List. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Timm" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary - VOTE > At 07:33 AM 3/7/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: > >This msg really upset me Holly because Mary Ann rarely ventures an opinion, > >and because of Teresa she just got a come-upins from you. This is why Teresa > >needs to either participate on the Board Exec list for these matters or not > >at all, it is too easy to hit reply and then be needlessly embarrassed. I am > >not being hateful or disrespectful, I just do not understand why Teresa is > >allowed privileges that potentially harm us or the membership. > > If this board wishes any action taken against Teresa in regards to her > refusal to participate directly and her actions to attempt to participate > indirectly only on this list then say so. > > Holly > > > > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 17:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA01906 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28IKWAp026768 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28IKAw23208; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:20:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:20:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: wchs@getgoin.net Fri Mar 8 11:20:09 2002 Message-ID: <018001c1c6cd$778b55a0$06967a3f@wchs> From: "Phyllis Rippee" Old-To: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:17:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Subject: [Board-Exec] Fw: Ok trying again AB SEC Job Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1788 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9324f913a04dd66c3eb6ef53f879be48 Forwarded with permission.....Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Courtney-Blizzard To: Holly Timm Cc: Jana Black ; Ron Eason ; Teresa Lindquist ; Kathy Heidel ; Phyllis Rippee Sent: 08 March, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Ok trying again AB SEC Job Dear Holly and ALL-L, I see that there was a problem with my original email in response to Holly's search for a new AB Secretary. I was unaware of this problem until today and I apologize for this and would like to submit the following explaining why I would like to be Secretary and also my thoughts on the position. I am a stay at home Mom and that allows me the time to read the Board-L mail on a daily basis staying updated on the progress of the AB and board business therefore I have the time to devote to the position. I feel that the position deserves and requires the full attention of the secretary and I am willing to devote this time and effort to the job. I have a copy of Sturgis and refer to it often as I read the Board-L mail and am already familiar with the PA needed to be secretary for the AB. Thank you, Kelly Census Lookup Mailing Lists Est. Oct 2000 - Kelly Courtney-Blizzard http://www.rootsweb.com/~censlook/ UsGeoGen Project - Bob Maley http://geogen.org/ From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 17:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA05103 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28IkOAp000084 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28IjxX21149; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:45:59 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:45:59 -0700 X-Original-Sender: kheidel@tri.net Fri Mar 8 11:45:59 2002 Message-ID: <025201c1c6d1$aa036be0$83f499cd@sasnak.net> From: "Kathy Heidel" Old-To: "Board-Exec" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:47:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Board-Exec] Fw: [ALL-L] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1789 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 67f77226f1fc0bcdea78eb4dcb61b321 Forwarded with permission to the NC and Board for consideration of skills, willingness and knowledge of Sturgis. Since we are unable have Alice and Ms. House doesn't have the above qualifications, and Kelly was the only other applicant, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Courtney-Blizzard" To: "Kathy Heidel" Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > Kathy, > Please feel free to forward this to the appropriate people. > Yes I am capable of using Keith's program or creating my own database for > maintaining and organizing AB business. > Yes I have the skills and the willingness to create a web page for the AB > and also to maintain it. I do have the necessary equipment to do this. > > Thanks, Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Heidel" > To: "Kelly Courtney-Blizzard" > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > Kelly, > > Are you able to use Keith's program? Do you have the skills necessary > to > > put up a site and the equipment to operate such? You have already stated > you > > had the time and willingness. Perhaps you ought to forward this info to > > Holly. These are the question's we need answered. > > Kathy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kelly Courtney-Blizzard" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > Hi Jana, > > > Holly sent this request. > > > "> > Those who are interested should write Holly Timm, the National > > > > Coordinator, at > > > > > hollyft@bright.net giving their qualifications and thoughts about > the > > > > position." > > > > > > and I replied to her with this email which was way too casual and it is > > my > > > mistake but I thought I was saying, I have the time to do the job and a > > > willingness to do the job and see it as a serious position that needs > > daily > > > attention. > > > > > > "> Holly, > > > > I am interested. I think the position is a serious one that need daily > > > > attention and I already read Board-L mail on a regular basis. LOL > > > > > > > > Kelly" > > > > > > It was my mistake since I was entirely too casual about it when I should > > > have elaborated and said. > > > I am a stay at home Mom that reads the Board-L mail on a daily basis > > > therefore I have the time to devote to the position. > > > I feel that the position deserves and requires the full attention of the > > > secretary and I am willing to devote this time and effort to the job. > > > I have a copy of Sturgis and refer to it often as I read the Board-L > mail > > > and am already familiar with the PA needed to be secretary for the AB. > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jana Black" > > > To: "Kelly Courtney-Blizzard" ; > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:38 AM > > > Subject: RE: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > > > > Kelly, > > > > > > > > Are you saying that you did send a letter of your qualifications to > the > > > NC? > > > > > > > > Jana > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kelly Courtney-Blizzard [mailto:kblizzar@tampabay.rr.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:56 AM > > > > To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathy, > > > > I did write to Holly but I sent more of a casual note vs a resume. I > > sent > > > it > > > > separate. > > > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kathy Heidel" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:05 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ginger this isn't exactly true. > > > > > Teresa asked for qualifications 2 -3 times of all of the > > candidates. > > > I > > > > > also asked because Kelly's was missing, I thought. I wanted to make > > > > certain > > > > > that all of the people had the same opportunity to state why they > felt > > > > they > > > > > should have this position. I was informed that Kelly didn't do this. > > > Okay > > > > I > > > > > accepted that she hadn't given Holly this information. Other AB > > members, > > > > > also said that they didn't receive emails from Holly and there was > > > > confusion > > > > > over that. I was out of town for 3 days and I apparently missed > emails > > > > also > > > > > I tried to catch up and before I could, Teresa put the information > on > > > > Board > > > > > about the Secretary Vote. I attempted to reverse the action but the > > harm > > > > was > > > > > already there, which is understandable. > > > > > Now that you are on the Board I am sure you will become aware of > > one > > > > > other factor. Teresa refuses to use Board Exec. She has full > > privileges > > > of > > > > > this mail list but will not email to it. She sends her information > > and > > > > all > > > > > votes through Holly, by proxy. Or uses the Board List or emails > others > > > > > separately. By not using the "Secret List" she has access to all > > > > information > > > > > on this list, publishes what she wants on the Board, ALL, and the > DBS. > > > and > > > > > tells the membership that she does not participate on the "Secret > > List", > > > > and > > > > > this is just not the truth. The Board Exec was discussing the > > Secretary > > > > > Position and that information should stay on Board Exec. or we > should > > > all > > > > be > > > > > using the Board List, and thus allow everyone to know what is being > > said > > > > > about a personnel discussion and everyone of us should be on the > same > > > > list. > > > > > or not participate. Do you think this is "Sour Grapes"? No actually > > it > > > is > > > > > not, most would call it respect and consideration of the people > > involved > > > > to > > > > > follow rules which are in place for a reasonable reason. You have > > stated > > > > on > > > > > ALL that the Board Exec should be used as a "tool" for the AB to use > > in > > > > > these situations. > > > > > I put the following on Board Exec or "Secret List" on March 6th > > > after > > > > > arriving home to find another mess started > > > > > "I am still struggling to catch up with email after being gone for > 3 > > > > > days. I just want to reiterate that if *ANYTHING* leaves Board Exec > > and > > > > > is posted on Board or ALL or DBS without the approval of each of us, > I > > > > will > > > > > be posting every message that pertains to the "conversation" on the > > open > > > > > lists myself. If one of us can do this without reprisal then in my > > > > > estimation any of us should be allowed the same privilege! I am sick > > of > > > > this > > > > > double standard, Teresa is no different than I am and I am no longer > > > > willing > > > > > to make an exception for her, it just reinforces her lack of respect > > for > > > > us > > > > > and her office. > > > > > Kathy" > > > > > You are welcomed to burn me at the stake, or whatever measure > you > > > deem > > > > > right, but I am tired of constantly being in the "News" and I am not > > > going > > > > > to keep quiet any longer. I will do as I promised if this takes > place > > > > again. > > > > > I will no longer sit silently and allow another member treat me with > > > total > > > > > disregard and disrespect. I would like to know how you would feel if > > put > > > > in > > > > > the same position. > > > > > Again she put your information on the ALL list prior to Holly > > > > > disseminating it to the AB and the AB accepting the Poll. Is that > > > > respectful > > > > > of the NC or the AB? is that Fair? > > > > > I am certain you will see things somewhat differently once you > are > > > on > > > > > the other side of the fence, I did. I will be interested to view > your > > > > > reactions first hand. I thought I could change everything, that I > > could > > > > > accomplish so much....and why did I ever think that when the other > > AB's > > > > made > > > > > up of fine people all wanting exactly what I want, were not able to? > I > > > > don't > > > > > know, > > > > > Kathy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "GingerH" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:27 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad isn't it? > > > > > > And now a good volunteer has been hurt > > > > > > because of this apparent pettiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ginger > > > > > > gingerh@shawneelink.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "merope" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:17 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Board Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Interesting. The no votes give no reason why they > > > > > > > >think Alice is unsuitable and only seem to be miffed > > > > > > > >because the NC wouldn't post her qualifications, although > > > > > > > >it seems they were all posted on Exec, where a personnel > > > > > > > >matter should be dealt with. If the naysayers posted any > > > > > > > >objections to her there they don't appear to be willing to > > > > > > > >repeat them anywhere else either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only objection to Alice was that she was Holly's choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Teresa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > > > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 17:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09363 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28JNSAp005629 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28JN2819355; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:23:02 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:23:02 -0700 X-Original-Sender: IsaiahHarrison@cs.com Fri Mar 8 12:23:02 2002 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:22:49 -0500 From: IsaiahHarrison@cs.com Old-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary- VOTE Message-ID: <1B2C0B18.0B162659.AE82A481@cs.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1790 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 404bcce243f4a75a38d7069eaf3b2da3 Holly Timm wrote: >At 07:33 AM 3/7/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: >>This msg really upset me Holly because Mary Ann rarely ventures an opinion, >>and because of Teresa she just got a come-upins from you. This is why Teresa >>needs to either participate on the Board Exec list for these matters or not >>at all, it is too easy to hit reply and then be needlessly embarrassed. I am >>not being hateful or disrespectful, I just do not understand why Teresa is >>allowed privileges that potentially harm us or the membership. > >If this board wishes any action taken against Teresa in regards to her >refusal to participate directly and her actions to attempt to participate >indirectly only on this list then say so. > >Holly > I would like to see action taken against Teresa AND I would like to see her removed from this list until she agrees to abide by the rules. I would like to see any special treatment discontinued. -Isaiah From ???@??? Fri Mar 08 17:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00702 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28JfhAp007927 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g28JfEs13146; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:41:14 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:41:14 -0700 X-Original-Sender: janab@websweweave.net Fri Mar 8 12:41:14 2002 From: "Jana Black" Old-To: Subject: RE: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary- VOTE Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:34:49 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1B2C0B18.0B162659.AE82A481@cs.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1791 X-Loop: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Board-Exec-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 34470c093635dae60e05b73c6c19378c I agree. Jana -----Original Message----- From: IsaiahHarrison@cs.com [mailto:IsaiahHarrison@cs.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:23 AM To: Board-Exec-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Re: [Board-Exec] Fw: [BOARD-L] Motion 02-06 - Board Secretary- VOTE Holly Timm wrote: >At 07:33 AM 3/7/02 -0600, Kathy Heidel wrote: >>This msg really upset me Holly because Mary Ann rarely ventures an opinion, >>and because of Teresa she just got a come-upins from you. This is why Teresa >>needs to either participate on the Board Exec list for these matters or not >>at all, it is too easy to hit reply and then be needlessly embarrassed. I am >>not being hateful or disrespectful, I just do not understand why Teresa is >>allowed privileges that potentially harm us or the membership. > >If this board wishes any action taken against Teresa in regards to her >refusal to participate directly and her actions to attempt to participate >indirectly only on this list then say so. > >Holly > I would like to see action taken against Teresa AND I would like to see her removed from this list until she agrees to abide by the rules. I would like to see any special treatment discontinued. -Isaiah