From ???@??? Tue Feb 26 18:10:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA00413 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:54:27 -0500 (EST) From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1QBsRcd002455 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1QBrwp14770; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 04:53:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 04:53:58 -0700 Message-Id: <200202261153.g1QBrwp14770@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: merope@radix.net Subject: Re: unsubscribe merope@radix.net X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: junk X-UIDL: be9689b3d28be2ab7e491b804ac745ef 32760 merope@radix.net merope@radix.net You have been removed from the list. If this wasn't your intention or you are having problems getting yourself unsubscribed, reply to this mail now (quoting it entirely (for diagnostic purposes), and of course adding any comments you see fit). Transcript of unsubscription request follows: -- >From merope@radix.net >From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: merope@radix.net >To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com >Subject: unsubscribe merope@radix.net From ???@??? Wed Feb 27 18:07:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01624 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1REWMcd013601 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from webhead ([12.76.132.24]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020227143215.RELE13933.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webhead> for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:32:15 +0000 Message-ID: <009101c1bf9b$49a264a0$18844c0c@webhead> From: "Sandra Quinn" To: Subject: Guidline committe questionaire response Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:30:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C1BF71.5FF22940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-UIDL: 8ae0d2f95b056e723a215bb791b06e82 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2
1) Have you ever visited or used any of the pages above, prior to this
>survey?  If so, did you find them helpful?  Yes, I thought it was very helpful to set up my webpages.
>
>2) What, if any, are the deficiencies you see in the current guidelines? I thought they were pretty simple to use and understand.
>
>3) What changes would you like to see to the Guidelines in this respect?
>
>4) Does your state currently have its own guidelines established? (please
>identify the state if the answer is yes). I am not sure, I used the national guidelines.
>
>5) Should the USGenWeb retain the query page requirement?  I don't think that is necessary now that we have the rootsweb message boards and they are so wonderful to use.
>
>6) Should the proposed guidelines committee include the formation of
>guidelines for the Special Projects?  Well, there should be a standardized form for all of us so that we do have the GenWeb look.
>
>7) In your opinion, does the Project need national level standardized
>guidelines for state, county and special projects pages? Sure, if not, there wouldn't be any real identification markers for the pages.
>
>7) What are your opinions on the establishment of an "oversight" committee
>to assist CCs and SCs in meeting these guidelines or any future guidelines
>that may be addressed?  I am not sure of an oversight committee, but you would think that the state coordinator should check the county pages out at least once and see if they comply to the guidelines as part of his/her duties as SC, and also the National coordinator should check the state pages at least once to see if they comply as part of his duties.
 
Sandy Mitchell-Quinn
Athens county, Ohio, and Hocking County, Ohio webmaster for OHGenWeb

>
>Thanks in advance for your responses!  You may respond directly to this
>list or to me directly.  I will forward all responses to the Guidelines
>'starter' committee.
>
>-Teresa Lindquist
>Representative At Large, USGenWeb Project
>merope@radix.net

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Mon Mar 04 12:47:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25712 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g24HavAp019937 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g24HZK511153; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:35:20 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:35:20 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Mon Mar 4 10:35:19 2002 Message-ID: <3C83B085.3F7906E9@sampubco.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 10:36:05 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Change #6- Composition of Advisory Board References: <165.95df0d3.29b4e3ec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/24354 X-Loop: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGENWEB-ALL-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 2025c8a7e607bfb041199f90e9c7abb5 Jeff, obvious you are not aware that the Archives archivists elect their rep. Linda has nothing to do with that. Not even hand-picked. Ask Tina. Ask Pam. Ask David Morgan. Ask Mary Ann Hetrick. Ask Joy Fisher. David ScismGenie@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/4/02 12:12:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dsam@sampubco.com writes: > > > fine with and I do know it is ok with Linda since she wanted ONE > > representative from the SPs but the others resisted her and made > > 3. > > > > Now only if we can figure out how the election of the SP > > representative is done. > > > > David Samuelsen > > > > Does Linda decide what is "ok"? What if the Others decide Linda is NOT going > to be their rep? > > Jeff > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. From ???@??? Wed Mar 06 17:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18307 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26CKcAp009193 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g26CIUW32676; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:18:30 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:18:30 -0700 X-Original-Sender: gingerh@shawneelink.com Wed Mar 6 05:18:25 2002 Message-ID: <008601c1c508$7d131f60$0101a8c0@pavilion> From: "GingerH" Old-To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:14:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: [ALL-L] Board Secretary Resent-Message-ID: To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/24388 X-Loop: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGENWEB-ALL-L-request@rootsweb.com X-IMAPbase: 1015434669 20 X-UIDL: 5b0005817eaf496f3005a8272e70bda8 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 I've been watching the vote on the board secretary position. Interesting. The no votes give no reason why they think Alice is unsuitable and only seem to be miffed because the NC wouldn't post her qualifications, although it seems they were all posted on Exec, where a personnel matter should be dealt with. If the naysayers posted any objections to her there they don't appear to be willing to repeat them anywhere else either. Alice, I wouldn't take this personally. Just appears to be an attempt by some board members to exact a little petty revenge on the NC for not jumping through their hoops. Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. From ???@??? Sun Mar 10 18:44:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04384 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hagus.bright.net (hagus.bright.net [205.212.123.74]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AMJLgi020563 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pooh.bright.net (ip68-9-36-76.cl.ri.cox.net [68.9.36.76]) by hagus.bright.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2AMJ2cg028084; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:19:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170759.00d48a70@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:21:58 -0500 To: merope@Radix.Net, dcaallen@pacifier.com, morgan@usroots.com, richpump@wf.net, dsam@sampubco.com, cristian@netonecom.net, dontharp@onemain.com, INJohnCo@aol.com, LoganCty@mindspring.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-UIDL: 9f4d6553efc62489e48213e0b1d13018 Welcome to the Guidelines Committee. In a few minutes I will be subscribing you all to the committee mail list and posting a welcome message there to start the ball rolling. Guidelines: Teresa Lindquist (Chair) Alice Allen Jan Cortez Morgan Johnson Rich Howland William David Samuelson Don Tharp Cheryl Parker Cheryl Rothwell Lorraine Newsome From ???@??? Sun Mar 10 18:44:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06013 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:43:41 -0500 (EST) From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AMhegi022870 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2AMhXd11394 for merope@Radix.Net; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:43:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:43:33 -0700 Message-Id: <200203102243.g2AMhXd11394@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: merope@Radix.Net Subject: Re: subscribe merope@Radix.Net X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 480dacaf0aa59d7601923684342065fc You have added to the subscriber list of: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com the following mail address: merope@Radix.Net By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned. 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Second, send the command "subscribe" to USGW-GUIDELINES-D-request@rootsweb.com to start receiving digests. 4. How to change to NOMAIL mode. There is no formal NOMAIL mode. All you have to do is follow the directions above and unsubscribe when you want the messages to stop, and then when you want them to start again, simply subscribe again. 5. If you'd like to post a message so everyone on the mailing list receives it, just send it to USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com. It will then be sent on to everyone in both mail and digest mode. You don't need to send it explicitly to both. 6. To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to USGW-GUIDELINES-admin@rootsweb.com. For your verification, a transcript of the original subscription request is included below. -- >From merope@Radix.Net >From: request (USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com) >Reply-To: merope@Radix.Net >To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com >Subject: subscribe merope@Radix.Net From ???@??? Sun Mar 10 18:44:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06347 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2AMmtgi023325 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2AMm4P19315; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:48:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:48:04 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Sun Mar 10 15:48:04 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:47:15 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 82c248ebcbcd8d7c7ee7dce5259bdbb8 Okay, I think I managed to get you all subscribed to the mail list In brief, the purpose of this committee is to review the present guidelines, both the required and suggested items and recommend any changes, deletions or additions. A brief additional word first though. I am on this committee ex-officio and will rarely say much of anything. I will advise the Bylaws Revision Committee when there seems to be potential overlap and advise this committee when there is potential overlap with their discussion. I may infrequently have something to say but when I do I will try to be quite clear as to whether I am offering a thought or personal opinion or am speaking, answering a question or perhaps ruling as National Coordinator. Now, I turn you over to the capable hands of your chairperson, Teresa Lindquist, with the suggestion that she ask us all to introduce ourselves and then get us started. Holly Timm National Coordinator, USGenWeb Project From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 06:09:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13275 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2B0HWgi001866 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2B0GX601893; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:16:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:16:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Sun Mar 10 17:16:33 2002 Message-ID: <00a101c1c892$01b341f0$6ebb41d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:16:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 81da9f55c0871abb47d5d0c96892f0f8 Hi, My name is Jan Cortez and let me see - what is it I do. Darn difficult questions! I have the WI Census Project housed on the USGennet server. I'm also a CC for NY, WI, MI, IA,VT,PA, and OH. I love doing genealogy and websites, however still learning the html. Am anxious to get started on guidelines, as I truly believe this is all long overdue. Jan Cortez Volunteer for the WI Census http://www.us-census.org/states/wisconsin/wisconsi.htm From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 06:39:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA23233 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BBJCgi029953 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2B5YVL31894; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:34:31 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:34:31 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Sun Mar 10 22:34:30 2002 Message-ID: <200203102132370210.02EDD560@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <00a101c1c892$01b341f0$6ebb41d8@JanCortez> References: <00a101c1c892$01b341f0$6ebb41d8@JanCortez> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:32:37 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2B5YUI31871 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a5962fd0247f6626d65788891c61e3a9 I'm Alice Allen, I'm a CC for 4 counties--1 in KS, 2 in OH, 1 in WA (where I live). Heading into my 6th year in these capacities. I'm usually quiet on the ALL list, but am looking forward to working with all of you to establish guidelines for our sites. Alice USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 06:09:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA19803 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BAbZgi026403 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2B5Yjv32704; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:34:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:34:45 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Sun Mar 10 22:34:45 2002 Message-ID: <3C8C4215.12EA4AF3@sampubco.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:35:17 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 58c5e870a57d24fda35df9c871aad384 Baker and Grant County, Oregon I favor data-heavy sites with minimumized use of graphics. Looking for way to make county sites more than just bare-bones. W. David Samuelsen From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24595 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BBhsgi001932 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BBh8705848; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 04:43:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 04:43:08 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 11 04:43:04 2002 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:50:54 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311062759.00a4ed30@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/94 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-IMAPbase: 1015866873 18 X-UIDL: 41a04d6a920df6f24cc524182a54a3ac Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Good morning everyone, First off, a question for Holly: Do I understand this is to be a special committee and is to produce a report for the Board to approve? Second, this meeting is now called to order. Welcome to everyone! Please respond for the record by stating your name and your position in the project. Rules for this committee are simple: Stay on topic, stay civil, and stay alert :) I would like Holly to open this list to read-only subscription for the membership. Barring that, I will produce a weekly report for the membership so that we can let them know what we are doing and they can let us know when we are off-base. :) For those who haven't seen them the guidelines for local coordinators are here: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/countypage.html and the guidelines for SCs are here: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/statepage.html Please review these carefully and be thinking of what you would like to see changed. We may wish to consider revising the entire section entitled "Information for Volunteers", which is located here: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/volunteers.html This page could use some serious re-working, but it is not clear to me that we can do anything but recommend changes to it at this time, as opposed to just going ahead and rewriting it, removing/replacing/updating dead links, etc. If you are interested in reading the summary of the survey results from the "starter" committee days, it is posted here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dailyboardshow/message/118 We will try to discuss one topic at a time, and will work in this order: LC guidelines first, SC second, then Special Projects. If anyone has any questions, just ask. Thanks, -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25634 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BC0ngi003291 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BC03U26444; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:00:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:00:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Mon Mar 11 05:00:01 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.7e00464.29bdf63a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:59:54 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <8fZoMD.A.FdG.CxJj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: dd682d9a05127dc16715a3359c066323 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 My name is Cheryl Parker and I host 3 counties in Indiana. One being the Unknown County page. I also host 2 county biography pages in Indiana. I have a strong clerical and computer background (Software). I have been involved in genealogy for about 10 years and would also like to see pages to have useful information and not just bare bones, especially Unknown County Pages. Have a wonderful day Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26361 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BCBFgi004254 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BCATD16178; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:10:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:10:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Mon Mar 11 05:10:27 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020311065319.00c92760@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:13:25 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311062759.00a4ed30@radix.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d34423aebccc5d37d8b633ff6ed5f24b Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 At 06:50 AM 3/11/02 -0500, merope wrote: >Good morning everyone, > >First off, a question for Holly: > >Do I understand this is to be a special committee and is to produce a >report for the Board to approve? yes, a report and reccomendations >I would like Holly to open this list to read-only subscription for the >membership. Barring that, I will produce a weekly report for the >membership so that we can let them know what we are doing and they can let >us know when we are off-base. :) Teresa, I think a weekly summary report (without editorializing ) would be the best way to keep the project informed. This way the project could be kept informed of progress and results as you go but those participating in the committee can speak informally without feeling like the entire project is hanging over their shoulder. There also may be times where people wish to cite some sites or pages or situations as *examples* but don't wish to publicly humiliate or upset anyone, a summary does not need to include the actual examples. Perhaps you would like to send me the weekly report and I will send it on to all the project lists. >Please review these carefully and be thinking of what you would like to >see changed. We may wish to consider revising the entire section >entitled "Information for Volunteers", which is located here: > >http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/volunteers.html > >This page could use some serious re-working, but it is not clear to me >that we can do anything but recommend changes to it at this time, as >opposed to just going ahead and rewriting it, removing/replacing/updating >dead links, etc. There has been some preliminary discussion in Pub/Promo about resource pages for CC's and perhaps there can be some cooperation with them in that suggestions or ideas could be passed on to that committee. Holly Timm National Coordinator From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08520 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BEftgi021033 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BEf3414438; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:41:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:41:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Mon Mar 11 07:41:02 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020311093443.00aa1cb0@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:38:38 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311062759.00a4ed30@radix.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/97 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 3fcc6bd9a2d85835ed392160a8447bbc Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 Hello, everyone. My name is Morgan Johnson. I've been a quiet county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one county in Illinois since 1996. I look forward to working with everyone on one of the aspects of the USGenWeb Project that I think impacts coordinators the most. Morgan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - morgan@usroots.com morgan@eastman.net morgan@morganjohnson.org Christian County, ILGenWeb http//www.rootsweb.com/~ilchrist/ Grant Parish, LAGenWeb http//www.rootsweb.com/~lagrant/ Rapides Parish, LAGenWeb http//www.rootsweb.com/~larapide/ CALVIT Surname Mailing List http//homepages.rootsweb.com/~morgan/calvit My personal genealogy http//www.morganjohnson.org/ From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11994 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BGe7gi007121 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BGdDH10132; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:39:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:39:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Mon Mar 11 09:39:13 2002 Message-Id: Message-Id: Message-Id: X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:43:55 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/98 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 465310d321f6d89790c40de83244a83d Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 Hello, my name is Don Tharp. I am a CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project since 1996. Hopefully all will recall how lost we felt when we volunteered for our first local site? With that in mind we should be able to improve on the present guidelines to better inform new volunteers of the help available. Many of the links need to be updated or deleted and new sources of information added. There is also conflicting information that could be changed to avoid confusion. I feel good about working with this group. Wishing all of you the best. Don Host Chautauqua County Kansas Hodgeman County Kansas Ness County Kansas From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13052 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BGp5gi008479 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BGoFu28173; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:50:15 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:50:15 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Mon Mar 11 09:50:14 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:55:02 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2BGoEI28143 Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/99 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 939bf57e83593d5010a13f46078e5434 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 I noticed the URL for my Chautauqua county website did not print properly so I am resending the message. Sorry <:o) Hello, my name is Don Tharp. I am a CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project since 1996. Hopefully all will recall how lost we felt when we volunteered for our first local site? With that in mind we should be able to improve on the present guidelines to better inform new volunteers of the help available. Many of the links need to be updated or deleted and new sources of information added. There is also conflicting information that could be changed to avoid confusion. I feel good about working with this group. Wishing all of you the best. Don Host Chautauqua County Kansas Hodgeman County Kansas Ness County Kansas From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:28:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17114 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BHT6gi013372 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BHSEf09461; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:28:14 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:28:14 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Mon Mar 11 10:28:14 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020311122449.00a99ec0@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:25:57 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/100 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 039c5cc30e408d492b9353898268c219 Oh, good. I noticed someone else resent a message due to errors so I will, too . For some reason none of the colons were in the URLs in my signature. Hello, everyone. My name is Morgan Johnson. I've been a quiet county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one county in Illinois since 1996. I look forward to working with everyone on one of the aspects of the USGenWeb Project that I think impacts coordinators the most. Morgan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - morgan@usroots.com morgan@eastman.net morgan@morganjohnson.org Christian County, ILGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilchrist/ Grant Parish, LAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~lagrant/ Rapides Parish, LAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~larapide/ CALVIT Surname Mailing List http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~morgan/calvit My personal genealogy http://www.morganjohnson.org/ From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:44:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26562 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BNQAgi000619 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BNPHF10822; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:25:17 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:25:17 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 11 16:25:17 2002 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:32:54 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20020311065319.00c92760@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311183100.00a548b0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311062759.00a4ed30@radix.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/101 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7e99cb85a3d6af68873126ea4cdfb698 At 07:13 AM 3/11/02 -0500, Holly Timm wrote: >There has been some preliminary discussion in Pub/Promo about resource >pages for CC's and perhaps there can be some cooperation with them in that >suggestions or ideas could be passed on to that committee. We will focus first on the guidelines themselves; at a later date, we can revisit the idea of collaborating with the P/P committee on the resources/information page. Since they are a standing committee it might be better for them to work on that since maintaining resources will be an ongoing project. -Teresa merope@radix.net >Holly Timm >National Coordinator > > > From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 18:44:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA27486 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BNZ6gi001613 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BNXvo27470; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:33:57 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:33:57 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 11 16:33:56 2002 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:41:51 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Welcome In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311062759.00a4ed30@radix.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311183928.00a562e0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020310170604.00d49390@mail.bright.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/102 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 84ffa2b25fe0896ed105eee7466aa712 >Second, this meeting is now called to order. Welcome to everyone! Please >respond for the record by stating your name and your position in the project. I am Teresa Lindquist. I have been with USGW since August 1996. I am the coordinator for two Kansas counties and a co-coordinator on another. I also currently serve as the Representative At Large on the Advisory Board, and I am the publisher of the Daily Board Show. I have formerly served on the Election Study Committee and on the predecessor to this committee, the Guidelines "starter" committee. -Teresa From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 19:27:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA27511 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BNZWgi001661 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BNYTI28716; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:34:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:34:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 11 16:34:29 2002 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:42:23 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311183448.00a4f120@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/103 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: fa89838441f4be831bdb572b5462f6b4 Good evening, The first topic on the list of Local Coordinator Guidelines is the title. Currently the page at http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/countypage.html is entitled "Info for Volunteers - County Page Guidelines/Standards". Should the title of the page be changed to more accurately state the scope of pages that these guidelines cover? This topic is now open for discussion. -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 11 19:27:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29947 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C00fgi004869 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2BNxbl07806; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:59:37 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:59:37 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Mon Mar 11 16:59:36 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:59:24 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/104 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7a625662ed1a10592f5349409ae83f9c The info for volunteers made me think it was for someone who was thinking about becoming a county coordinator. There is another site called "Information for Volunteers" which does answer the questions for those wishing to sign up. Suggestion: Web Page Standards for County Coordinators Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 00:05:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA09963 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 20:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C1ssgi018163 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 20:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2C1rwH07707; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:53:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:53:58 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Mon Mar 11 18:53:58 2002 Message-ID: <200203111752020030.0223ED34@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:52:02 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2C1rwI07680 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/105 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c7ac41083cbeff4a67f2706e821698d2 Or even just getting rid of the "Info for Volunteers" and leaving the title as "The USGenWeb Project--County Page Guidelines/Standards. That would make it more centered to what is expected of CC's regarding their web pages. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/11/02 at 6:59 PM INJohnCo@aol.com wrote: >The info for volunteers made me think it was for someone who was thinking >about becoming a county coordinator. > >There is another site called "Information for Volunteers" which does >answer >the questions for those wishing to sign up. > >Suggestion: Web Page Standards for County Coordinators From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 00:05:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA01580 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C3YDgi029340 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2C3XGB12548; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 20:33:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 20:33:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Mon Mar 11 20:33:16 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020311223122.00b01dc0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:34:34 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction In-Reply-To: <3C8C4215.12EA4AF3@sampubco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4db3cdc0a186eae81d60643e7b1c532b Good evening, everyone. I am also known as Sunny in chat. I am CC in Ohio, SD, AR, MI, WI, NY (also ASC), and IL (also ASC). I'm also on the EC as a rep for the NE/NC Region along with Sara Greer. I'm looking forward to working with all of you. I do work nights, so please realize that my responses will probably be somewhat delayed due to that fact. Keep Warm, everyone! Sunny From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 06:14:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA08771 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C51qgi008825 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2C50wn18307; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:00:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:00:58 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 11 22:00:57 2002 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:08:53 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-reply-to: <200203111752020030.0223ED34@smtp.pacifier.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <76Bk5C.A.ldE.JuYj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 2ab9ed36a519c9e88064caae33c0068a At 05:52 PM 3/11/02 -0800, DC & Alice Allen wrote: >Or even just getting rid of the "Info for Volunteers" and leaving the >title as "The USGenWeb Project--County Page Guidelines/Standards. That >would make it more centered to what is expected of CC's regarding their >web pages. I was thinking that as well. But I was also thinking that maybe adding in other types of pages as well might be helpful, something along the lines of: "The USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for County, Parish, Township, City, and Town Pages" But I dunno, is that too wordy? Maybe we can have it say: "USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators" and later in the guidelines define a "local coordinator" as someone who manages a county, parish, etc. -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 06:14:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA10679 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C5PHgi011267 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2C5OLL21015; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:24:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:24:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Mon Mar 11 22:24:21 2002 Message-ID: <3C8D9122.9FC1F7D8@sampubco.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:24:50 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7bVd3.A.HIF.FEZj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6b4a096c4a677a453516c109d71c5a6f Just got home from working as volunteer in Paralympic Games' Sledge Hockey tonight... Having reviewing the messages, It would appears we are dealing with TWO distinct information. One for POTENTIAL coordinators One for PRESENNT coordinators W. David Samuelsen merope wrote: > > At 05:52 PM 3/11/02 -0800, DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > >Or even just getting rid of the "Info for Volunteers" and leaving the > >title as "The USGenWeb Project--County Page Guidelines/Standards. That > >would make it more centered to what is expected of CC's regarding their > >web pages. > > I was thinking that as well. > > But I was also thinking that maybe adding in other types of pages as well > might be helpful, something along the lines of: > > "The USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for County, Parish, > Township, City, and Town Pages" > > But I dunno, is that too wordy? Maybe we can have it say: > > "USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators" > > and later in the guidelines define a "local coordinator" as someone who > manages a county, parish, etc. > > -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 06:14:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA12137 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C5mmgi013373 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2C5lqb16538; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:47:52 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:47:52 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Mon Mar 11 22:47:52 2002 Message-ID: <200203112145570910.02FA2135@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:45:57 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2C5lqI16510 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 78c6fe465ee0a02b75d9ae7d5185b93e This would work as well. This would define just who these guidelines are for, and of course there could be other guideline pages for other types of volunteers. Alice USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/12/02 at 12:08 AM merope wrote: > >But I dunno, is that too wordy? Maybe we can have it say: > >"USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators" > >and later in the guidelines define a "local coordinator" as someone who >manages a county, parish, etc. > >-Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 06:29:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA04265 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CBB8gi012000 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CBAL708975; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:10:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:10:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Tue Mar 12 04:10:19 2002 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:18:09 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-reply-to: <3C8D9122.9FC1F7D8@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312061731.00a5a340@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9d0c690d877633c7c7fef58e72ef85c5 At 10:24 PM 3/11/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >It would appears we are dealing with TWO distinct information. > >One for POTENTIAL coordinators >One for PRESENNT coordinators David, can you explain further how these might be different? -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10585 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CCm5gi021104 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CClGl18292; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:47:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:47:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Tue Mar 12 05:47:15 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <68.1cb6447d.29bf52cb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:47:07 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-IMAPbase: 1015953645 7 X-UIDL: 1fe6a470547bd13a9673dde9f4af4342 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Guideline: a standard or principle by which to determine a policy or action. Standard: something established as a rule or basis of comparison in measuring or judging quantity, quality, value, etc. I would suggest we pick one word or the other. Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA16432 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CDukgi028914 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CDtvj19032; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:55:57 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:55:57 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Tue Mar 12 06:55:57 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020312085344.00ad32d0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:57:10 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <3C8D9122.9FC1F7D8@sampubco.com> References: <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/112 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 049cbff08a4eba90e6f740f8fcb09596 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 I think this would be best. If you direct someone who is *thinking* about becoming a volunteer to a site that has all the information on it, they might get overwhelmed. If you direct them to a page with the basic information of what should be expected, it's not as likely to do that. Some sites have so much information available, that if I were a "potential" volunteer, I would wonder: "How the heck am I supposed to gather all that stuff? I work full time, have a family. Just can't do it." However, if you let them know that folks submit items, you do some of your own work, and things like that, it's not going to frighten someone off. Does that make any sense?? or am I still half asleep.... Sunny At 10:24 PM 3/11/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Having reviewing the messages, > >It would appears we are dealing with TWO distinct information. > >One for POTENTIAL coordinators >One for PRESENNT coordinators From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA17887 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CE87gi000518 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CE7IP19221; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:07:18 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:07:18 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Tue Mar 12 07:07:18 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 08:12:01 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312000553.00a54160@radix.net> References: <200203111752020030.0223ED34@smtp.pacifier.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2CE7II19198 Resent-Message-ID: <6GA2mC.A.KsE.Wugj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/113 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: eaaa4982bced4f0ca4bfc51ec173fd87 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Because we may define some requirements as well as recommendations the shorter title seems more appropriate. "The USGenWeb Project" "Standards for Local Coordinators" Don At 11:08 PM 03/11/2002, you wrote: >At 05:52 PM 3/11/02 -0800, DC & Alice Allen wrote: > >>Or even just getting rid of the "Info for Volunteers" and leaving the >>title as "The USGenWeb Project--County Page Guidelines/Standards. That >>would make it more centered to what is expected of CC's regarding their >>web pages. > >I was thinking that as well. > >But I was also thinking that maybe adding in other types of pages as well >might be helpful, something along the lines of: > >"The USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for County, Parish, >Township, City, and Town Pages" > >But I dunno, is that too wordy? Maybe we can have it say: > >"USGenWeb Project Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators" > >and later in the guidelines define a "local coordinator" as someone who >manages a county, parish, etc. > >-Teresa > From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07743 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CH8dgi024673 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CH7kd11796; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:07:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:07:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Tue Mar 12 10:07:46 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312120033.00a97420@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:05:26 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <68.1cb6447d.29bf52cb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/114 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8bb3b4d22a0fe23258ec2a6319203aca Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 At 07:47 AM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Guideline: a standard or principle by which to determine a policy or action. > >Standard: something established as a rule or basis of comparison in >measuring or judging quantity, quality, value, etc. > >I would suggest we pick one word or the other. > >Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- What is our goal? To let coordinators know what is required on pages? If so, "standard" sounds more like requirements, but, by definition, it doesn't say that its items are mandatory. Guidelines sound like things that are suggestions from a higher power. Maybe it's just my own personal connotation of the words. Morgan From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10150 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CHT7gi027423 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CHRcB26458; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:27:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:27:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@Radix.Net Tue Mar 12 10:27:38 2002 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: merope Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312120033.00a97420@mail.usroots.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <0B3h0D.A.LdG.Kqjj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/115 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 386b283db7e7fb01e51bf5c5333d5b2b On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > What is our goal? To let coordinators know what is required on pages? If > so, "standard" sounds more like requirements, but, by definition, it > doesn't say that its items are mandatory. > Guidelines sound like things that are suggestions from a higher power. > Maybe it's just my own personal connotation of the words. Because this is a volunteer project, I think we should try to avoid anything that looks overbearing or authoritarian. Its better to encourage or suggest, particularly when you are trying to attract unpaid workers . At the same time of course, we should endeavor to make clear what the Project considers to be the minimum standards of acceptability for volunteers to follow. For that reason, I prefer using "Guidelines and Standards" in describing what we are compiling here. -Teresa > > Morgan > From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 17:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16630 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CILsgi004934 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CICMb27330; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:12:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:12:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Tue Mar 12 11:12:21 2002 Message-ID: <200203121010170890.00691BA5@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: References: <200203111752020030.0223ED34@smtp.pacifier.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> <12c.dd33d6e.29be9edc@aol.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:10:17 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2CICLI27304 Resent-Message-ID: <638XoD.A.0qG.FUkj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/116 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 1d2dc0e56de2e998e3c25edbd6784508 This works for me, since we are basically letting potential (& current) CC's know what the standards or mandatory items are. Still room after listing the required points to add a section on optional or recommended items. Alice USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/12/02 at 8:12 AM Don Tharp wrote: >Because we may define some requirements as well as recommendations the >shorter >title seems more appropriate. > > "The USGenWeb Project" > >"Standards for Local Coordinators" > From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 18:09:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19848 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CMvJgi013207 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2CMtwr06784; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:55:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:55:58 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Tue Mar 12 15:55:58 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020312174613.0349d240@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:58:57 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312120033.00a97420@mail.usroots.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/117 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8678497c7dc453fc7c56c6e467e02c68 (as an individual, with my NC hat hanging in the closet) I think there are really three levels of *items*... 1) a very few REQUIREMENTS 2) recommendations which are a strong version of #3 3) suggestions I agree completely with Teresa on the choice of title and reasoning. Holly At 12:27 PM 3/12/02 -0500, merope wrote: >On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > > > What is our goal? To let coordinators know what is required on pages? If > > so, "standard" sounds more like requirements, but, by definition, it > > doesn't say that its items are mandatory. > > Guidelines sound like things that are suggestions from a higher power. > > Maybe it's just my own personal connotation of the words. > >Because this is a volunteer project, I think we should try to avoid >anything that looks overbearing or authoritarian. Its better to encourage >or suggest, particularly when you are trying to attract unpaid workers >. At the same time of course, we should endeavor to make clear what >the Project considers to be the minimum standards of acceptability for >volunteers to follow. > >For that reason, I prefer using "Guidelines and Standards" in describing >what we are compiling here. > >-Teresa > > > > > Morgan > > From ???@??? Tue Mar 12 19:39:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29542 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2D0RPgi025467 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2D0QVt15698; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:26:31 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:26:31 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Tue Mar 12 17:26:31 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:26:29 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <1J27WC.A.H1D.3ypj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f5a00b7d0ff3016cd0fd3b30a862c814 Since a guideline is a standard and you want a softer feel, go with: Guidelines for County Coordinators Synonyms for Guideline: rule, law, principle, standard, criterion, regulation My point is that Guidelines/Standards is redundant. The verbiage used within the description of each item will determine whether it is an option or not. Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:00:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19938 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2D4KZgi025054 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2D4JHt18540; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:19:17 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:19:17 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Tue Mar 12 21:19:17 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:19:51 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <7_Mah.A.ihE.FNtj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 58db71e10e01bfc638601fa08993cf95 At 10:08 PM 3/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: >At 07:26 PM 3/12/02 -0500, INJohnCo@aol.com wrote: >>Since a guideline is a standard and you want a softer feel, go with: >>Guidelines for County Coordinators > > >I would suggest using "Local Coordinators" instead of "County >Coordinators" for the following reasons: 1) this terminology is used in >the bylaws; 2) there are more types of websites below the state level than >just counties. > >Otherwise, this is fine with me. > >-Teresa This is great except that we're going to start confusing a lot of people. I had never heard the term "Local Coordinator" until, what? yesterday? Morgan From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:00:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27578 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2D5vtgi004930 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2D5us105142; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:56:54 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:56:54 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 12 22:56:54 2002 Message-ID: <3C8EEA3C.B9BFE224@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:57:16 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/121 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 012ecd802bb00988a5d872f7ede5b04f Where have you been? It has been around long time. Even in the original Bylaws since 1998. I say we go with Local Coordinators W. David Samuelsen Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > > At 10:08 PM 3/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >At 07:26 PM 3/12/02 -0500, INJohnCo@aol.com wrote: > >>Since a guideline is a standard and you want a softer feel, go with: > >>Guidelines for County Coordinators > > > > > >I would suggest using "Local Coordinators" instead of "County > >Coordinators" for the following reasons: 1) this terminology is used in > >the bylaws; 2) there are more types of websites below the state level than > >just counties. > > > >Otherwise, this is fine with me. > > > >-Teresa > > This is great except that we're going to start confusing a lot of people. I > had never heard the term "Local Coordinator" until, what? yesterday? > > Morgan From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:00:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA02101 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 02:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2D733gi010870 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 02:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2D723B23098; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:02:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:02:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Wed Mar 13 00:02:01 2002 Message-ID: <200203122300030580.0329F390@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <3C8EEA3C.B9BFE224@sampubco.com> References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <3C8EEA3C.B9BFE224@sampubco.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:00:03 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2D721I22993 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/122 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9fc3be6fdc2deb173b94728b58a09de1 Well David, if you don't get "out & about" in the rest of the Project, you might miss the LC's Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/12/02 at 10:57 PM W David Samuelsen wrote: >Where have you been? It has been around long time. Even in the original >Bylaws since 1998. > >I say we go with Local Coordinators > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:17:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA11997 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DB48gi002867 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DB2wR17706; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:02:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:02:58 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 13 04:02:56 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:07:37 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/123 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8dfc155d525b1abe666a85a882daa89e "The USGenWeb Project" "Guidelines for Local Coordinators" I have no problem with the above title, but aren't we leaving out something? The guidelines are for website pages to be developed by Local Coordinators, but there is nothing in the title that suggests that. Perhaps the above title is too general. Should it be "The USGenWeb Project" "Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators" Don From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12748 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DBDAgi003784 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DBADV03582; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:10:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:10:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Wed Mar 13 04:10:10 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <18.1ba5121c.29c08d88@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:10:00 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <_xSviD.A.a3.UOzj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/124 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 3433c6e45bfa0465b4a233dad32ea52f In a message dated 3/13/02 6:03:08 AM US Eastern Standard Time, dontharp@onemain.com writes: > "The USGenWeb Project" > "Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators" This is a good title. I vote for this one. Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12792 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DBEqgi003856 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DBD0J09329; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:13:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:13:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Wed Mar 13 04:12:58 2002 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:20:50 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-reply-to: X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313061856.00a5d610@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6fa4667e0f3f64f268cd712f6d266301 At 05:07 AM 3/13/02 -0600, Don Tharp wrote: > "The USGenWeb Project" >"Guidelines for Local Coordinators" > >I have no problem with the above title, but aren't we leaving out something? >The guidelines are for >website pages to be developed by Local Coordinators, but there is nothing in >the title that suggests that. Perhaps the above title is too general. > >Should it be > > "The USGenWeb Project" >"Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators" > >Don The guidelines will probably end up covering more than webpages. For instance, a current guideline requires LCs to sub to state mailing lists. This requirement doesn't have much to do with webpages. -Teresa From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:39:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA13468 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DBNSgi004708 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DBMct04762; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:22:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:22:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Wed Mar 13 04:22:37 2002 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:30:27 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/126 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ec600bd065a3f1acd4270dc85b3f11b3 At 11:19 PM 3/12/02 -0500, Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: >This is great except that we're going to start confusing a lot of people. >I had never heard the term "Local Coordinator" until, what? yesterday? The term is used in the bylaws, which were adopted in 1998. You are correct that it is used sporadically and is not the common term. However, there are many different types of local pages and this document should cover all of them. I am concerned that if we use the term "county coordinator" people either will think it doesn't apply to them or they will claim it doesn't apply to them. I also think it is a good idea to use the terms that the bylaws use, if for nothing else than that we are internally consistent. I have reviewed the responses to this issue thus far. After collapsing the terms for local and county coordinators and accounting for different word order, there are three basic suggestions: Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators Guidelines for Local Coordinators Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators Please indicate which of these three titles you prefer. Thanks! -Teresa From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:42:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA13855 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DBWggi005454 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DBVhl16334; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:31:43 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:31:43 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Wed Mar 13 04:31:41 2002 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:39:32 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/127 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e87ffcf89e507c582e357a55c8d46f48 After reviewing the bylaws and the current guidelines here are the current requirements for Local Coordinators: From the bylaws: 1. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. 2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for server space, to do look-ups, etc. [These two items cannot be changed by us. However, they should be listed on the Guidelines webpage, since many people probably do not read the bylaws] From the current guidelines: 1. requirement to join the state mail list 2. requirement to have a query page 3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page These items can be amended by us. Should they be? This topic is now open for discussion. -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 06:42:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA14030 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DBXsgi005527 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DBWrp16554; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:32:53 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 04:32:53 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Wed Mar 13 04:32:51 2002 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:40:18 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063948.00a68d80@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9qA72D.A.YCE.kjzj8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/128 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e6555443f606e3921b4893bf534d4ebb > >Guidelines for Local Coordinators This is my preference. -Teresa From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA19093 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DCq1gi012887 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DCpCm31161; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:51:12 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:51:12 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Wed Mar 13 05:51:10 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Introduction Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00a101c1c892$01b341f0$6ebb41d8@JanCortez> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/131 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 29cff40772a62879d9849a58043e0214 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 I know that Rich and I are out of town. He's in Alabama and I'm in Florida. My internet contact may be intermittent while I'm away. Hey Morgan. Hey Sunny. I'm Cheryl Rothwell. I'm the CC for Logan County, IL, where ALL my ancestors conveniently settled -- and stayed. I moved to Tennessee 10 years ago but my ancestors stayed in Logan County. I'm the Central Illinois Regional Coordinator for ILGenWeb. My husband died last year and I am not working so I supposedly have plenty time but my genealogy and other web work seems to fill it all. I'm committed to begin writing pleadings for the court in Chicago soon. I'm on the Guidelines Committee for Illinois -- hopefully both committees will produce a much needed set of good guidelines the CCs can live with. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Lucas et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10987 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DGVQgi011406 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DGUQ503730; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:30:26 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:30:26 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 09:30:26 2002 Message-ID: <3C8F7EB5.89D36972@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:30:45 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <3C8EEA3C.B9BFE224@sampubco.com> <200203122300030580.0329F390@smtp.pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/135 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ee935444f1a0261d243197fb2b30df5e Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Excuse me! I have been about the Project and I know there are Local Coordinators, right down to township level. I was responding to another member of committee comment about not knowing there are Local Coordinators. David DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > Well David, if you don't get "out & about" in the rest of the Project, you might miss the LC's > > Alice A > USGenWeb Project CC for > > Marshall Co., KS > Geauga Co., OH > Seneca Co., OH > Clark Co., WA > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/12/02 at 10:57 PM W David Samuelsen wrote: > > >Where have you been? It has been around long time. Even in the original > >Bylaws since 1998. > > > >I say we go with Local Coordinators > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20261 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DHh5gi021980 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DHgDO26484; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:42:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:42:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Wed Mar 13 10:42:13 2002 Message-ID: <200203130940110550.0078276E@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <3C8F7EB5.89D36972@sampubco.com> References: <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <3C8EEA3C.B9BFE224@sampubco.com> <200203122300030580.0329F390@smtp.pacifier.com> <3C8F7EB5.89D36972@sampubco.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:40:11 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2DHgDI26458 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/137 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e2c7b6f99a242aa30b464b89731c8769 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 Sorry David, I guess that should have read, "if one doesn't get out & about, etc." I knew you knew about LC's. And the after my comment means or or what-have-you. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/13/02 at 9:30 AM W David Samuelsen wrote: >Excuse me! I have been about the Project and I know there are >Local Coordinators, right down to township level. I was responding >to another member of committee comment about not knowing there are >Local Coordinators. > >David > >DC & Alice Allen wrote: >> >> Well David, if you don't get "out & about" in the rest of the Project, >you might miss the LC's >> >> Alice A >> USGenWeb Project CC for >> >> Marshall Co., KS >> Geauga Co., OH >> Seneca Co., OH >> Clark Co., WA >> >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >> On 3/12/02 at 10:57 PM W David Samuelsen wrote: >> >> >Where have you been? It has been around long time. Even in the original >> >Bylaws since 1998. >> > >> >I say we go with Local Coordinators >> > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA21211 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DDHsgi015769 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DDGc313811; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:16:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:16:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Wed Mar 13 06:16:38 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313081615.00ad5ee0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:17:52 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/133 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 16d702301c2c42337e158e99d3cd2a7e Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 At 06:30 AM 3/13/02 -0500, you wrote: >I have reviewed the responses to this issue thus far. After collapsing >the terms for local and county coordinators and accounting for different >word order, there are three basic suggestions: > >Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators >Guidelines for Local Coordinators >Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators Unfortunately, I didn't read all the conversation about this until this morning, therefore I guess I'll hold my comments and try to get to my mail when I get home from work from now on so I can comment on these things. I vote for Guidelines for Local Coordinators Sunny From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA16582 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DHGPgi017934 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DHFRJ11830; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:15:27 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:15:27 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Wed Mar 13 10:15:27 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020313121020.00b09ca0@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:13:06 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/136 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: bab4af0b8e044e7d84ff397ee2155ad8 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 At 06:30 AM 3/13/02 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:19 PM 3/12/02 -0500, Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > >>This is great except that we're going to start confusing a lot of people. >>I had never heard the term "Local Coordinator" until, what? yesterday? > >The term is used in the bylaws, which were adopted in 1998. You are >correct that it is used sporadically and is not the common term. However, >there are many different types of local pages and this document should >cover all of them. I am concerned that if we use the term "county >coordinator" people either will think it doesn't apply to them or they >will claim it doesn't apply to them. I also think it is a good idea to >use the terms that the bylaws use, if for nothing else than that we are >internally consistent. Thank you for your calm explanation and understanding, Teresa. Despite being involved since 1996, I'd just never heard the term, apparently to the surprise of others. I vote for "Guidelines for Local Coordinators." Leave it a little general like that, and we can add fringe things later that we may not be sure 100% belong on a page only for web page guidelines. Morgan From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21068 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DHn1gi022828 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DHmAC03313; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:48:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:48:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Wed Mar 13 10:48:10 2002 Message-ID: <200203130946090450.007D9DA1@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:46:09 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <1trAaD.A.hz.aD5j8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/138 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 90f15ec784de8c334ed0120f5f0ba19d My preference: "Guidelines for Local Coordinators" *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators >Guidelines for Local Coordinators >Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators > >Please indicate which of these three titles you prefer. > >Thanks! > >-Teresa From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21392 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DHpsgi023211 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DHp2Z08560; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:51:02 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:51:02 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Wed Mar 13 10:51:01 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <163.a439676.29c0eb6b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:50:35 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <-wE8DC.A.MFC.FG5j8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/139 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 81b64536ae43d91307b388e0dec710e4 In a message dated 3/13/02 6:13:25 AM US Eastern Standard Time, merope@Radix.Net writes: > The guidelines will probably end up covering more than webpages. For > instance, a current guideline requires LCs to sub to state mailing > lists. This requirement doesn't have much to do with webpages. > > I vote for Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators. Isn't subbing to a mailing list part of hosting a web page? It may not deal with the layout of the web page, but it is part of hosting the web page. The majority of the guidelines are for the Web Page. Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA00616 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E5FACl002138 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E5EC424763; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:14:12 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:14:12 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 22:14:12 2002 Message-ID: <3C9031BC.901DE74D@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:14:36 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/149 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 65c110df54adb9eb6bf80778f75e6021 Madame Chairman, I call the question on the title of the Guidelines. "Guidelines for Local Coordinators" W. David Samuelsen From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 18:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12954 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2ENJ9Cl009014 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2ENI1B06696; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:18:01 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:18:01 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Thu Mar 14 16:18:01 2002 Message-ID: <3C912FBA.1F01213B@sampubco.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:18:18 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Madame Chairman?? Resent-Message-ID: <9tyDqD.A.doB.p-Sk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/153 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a1859a37113249912151dd114c8ba593 Teresa, where are you? Off now to work as volunteer in Paralympic Games' Sledge Hockey tonight. Should be back home by 10 pm Salt Lake City. David Samuelsen From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28339 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DEacgi025420 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DEYpB09300; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:34:51 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:34:51 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Wed Mar 13 07:34:50 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:34:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020312174613.0349d240@mail.bright.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/134 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8b603cb7d30aac88d763c23dfd3a6f37 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 I can tell you our CCs, like Morgan, will not know what Local Coordinators are. They are either County Coordinators or Special Project Coordinators. I don't have a preference but if we change our terms we are going to have some 'splaining to do -- and I'm certain we aren't the only ones. I agree with Holly on: I think there are really three levels of *items*... 1) a very few REQUIREMENTS 2) recommendations which are a strong version of #3 3) suggestions We might want to look up other terms for recommendations and suggestions, make sure we select the best one, but the idea is good. [I'm traveling, can't look it up yet. I can't even get online at times, like all day yesterday.] Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17647 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DCULgi010771 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DCTWe02443; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:29:32 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:29:32 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 13 05:29:30 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:34:12 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: Webpage title In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313060147.00a5b030@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020312231854.00b72430@mail.usroots.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020312220650.00a5c1c0@radix.net> <178.4ff0202.29bff6b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2DCTUI02421 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/129 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0f452d1b7da889e8b4290a7cfbf1545f Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators is my choice Don >I have reviewed the responses to this issue thus far. After collapsing the >terms for local and county coordinators and accounting for different word >order, there are three basic suggestions: > >Guidelines and Standards for Local Coordinators >Guidelines for Local Coordinators >Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators > >Please indicate which of these three titles you prefer. > >Thanks! > >-Teresa > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19928 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DD33gi013996 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DD2AW11439; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:02:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:02:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 13 06:02:09 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:06:52 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2DD29I11349 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/132 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 42dffc109da61f6c3a7fb7b51c1a47b3 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 >From the current guidelines: 1. requirement to join the state mail list I have previously indicated that I thought this needs revision. 2. requirement to have a query page Yes, this needs a major revision as well as the Query Management page which is pointed to in the paragraph. 3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page I would rather the paragraph require a pointer to the volunteers State page. Every state page I've visited has a link to the county selection map/list so a pointer to the State page would serve two purposes. These items can be amended by us. Should they be? This topic is now open for discussion. -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23067 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DI3hgi024834 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DI2sk20769; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:02:54 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:02:54 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Wed Mar 13 11:02:54 2002 Message-ID: <200203131000530420.008B1B0E@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:00:53 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2DI2sI20744 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/140 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b38ca6a7cbb4cbc6e249a29731b96585 My comments interspersed after Teresa's: Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA ------------------------------------------------------------ On 3/13/02 at 6:39 AM merope wrote: >After reviewing the bylaws and the current guidelines here are the >current >requirements for Local Coordinators: > > From the bylaws: > >1. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project >logo on the home page. >2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is >defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites >comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for >server space, to do look-ups, etc. > >[These two items cannot be changed by us. However, they should be listed >on the Guidelines webpage, since many people probably do not read the >bylaws] I agree on this one, then there "should" be no doubt in any LC's mind that we can't solicit funds, no matter how good a cause. > > From the current guidelines: > >1. requirement to join the state mail list Do we know which states do NOT have a state mail list? Is a state mail list a requirement for the SC's? I feel it should be a requirement to join the state list. >2. requirement to have a query page Again, I think it should still be a requirement to have a query page. Format should probably still be up to the LC. >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page Agree with Don that it should be changed to "pointer to state page" From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA08348 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E2Aagi000404 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E29cB20992; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:09:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:09:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 13 19:09:37 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:14:20 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313184137.00a5cc40@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2E29bI20933 Resent-Message-ID: <571ylB.A.jHF.iZAk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/144 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a71ec984161a0c5511c9e245ab57bfd9 At 05:55 PM 03/13/2002, you wrote: >At 06:39 AM 3/13/02 -0500, merope wrote: > >> From the current guidelines: >> >>1. requirement to join the state mail list > >I think this requirement should remain, and the state coordinator >guidelines (when we get to those) should be updated to require the SC >to maintain a mail list to which all local coordinators are subscribed. If this requirement is to remain I think it should be reworded to remove the ambiguity between it and that required by the state coordinators. I would suggest something like this "Your state coordinator will subscribe you to the mail list for your state of interest. This list is where all matters pertaining to the project may be discussed. If you are not notified of subscription to your state list, please contact your state coordinator." [link mail list in first sentence to the info for volunteers mail list page at http://www.usgenweb.org/vo lunteers/mail.html] Don From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18137 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DCd0gi011629 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DCc1509830; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:38:01 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 05:38:01 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 13 05:37:59 2002 X-Sender: dt1012793@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:42:41 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2DCbxI09788 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/130 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 1e64e406932b93230c137dd6c51f42aa Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 Teresa, I realize you wanted us to concentrate on the guidelines for the county page volunteers and go to the state requirements second. However, there is a conflict between the two mail list requirements that should be resolved. Caps below are mine to indicate the differences. The guidelines for county volunteers read as follows .... "If your state of interest 'DOES NOT HAVE A MAIL LIST' you can request more information from the state coordinator." While the same guide line for the State pages read ..."Each state is 'REQUIRED' to maintain a mail list 'TO WHICH ALL COUNTY COORDINATORES ARE SUBSCRIBED'." It appears to me that the requirements should be identical, either there will be a state list with all local volunteers subscribed or it will be an option for the State Coordinator as well as an option for the local volunteers. My personal recommendation is that a list be maintained by every state and all volunteers be subscribed. My own state uses a mail list and it is used very sparingly. It certainly isn't a burden to the volunteers of the state and it does provide an avenue for posting information to those volunteers who have no desire to subscribe to the DBS, -ALL, or the regional lists. Also, I have been made aware that there have been instances of conflict between State and Local coordinators where the State coordinator refused to have the local coordinator remain on the list. If the State coordinator felt strongly that the local coordinator should be removed from the list they could initiate a grievance to be resolved by the AB. If we decide to require a list for each state it shouldn't be up to the State coordinator to decide who could remain subscribed. Don At 05:39 AM 03/13/2002, you wrote: >After reviewing the bylaws and the current guidelines here are the current >requirements for Local Coordinators: > > From the bylaws: > >1. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project >logo on the home page. >2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is >defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites >comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for >server space, to do look-ups, etc. > >[These two items cannot be changed by us. However, they should be listed >on the Guidelines webpage, since many people probably do not read the bylaws] > > From the current guidelines: > >1. requirement to join the state mail list >2. requirement to have a query page >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page > >These items can be amended by us. Should they be? > >This topic is now open for discussion. > >-Teresa >merope@radix.net > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23541 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DI7Ugi025265 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DI6ZN29241; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:06:35 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:06:35 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Wed Mar 13 11:06:35 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.dc3fca7.29c0ef23@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:06:27 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/141 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b2125a55dec4950487a6791c60eaee68 > From the current guidelines: > > 1. Requirement to join the state mail list > Requirement still needed. Wording needs to be updated and agree with > the state requirement. > > 2. Requirement to have a query page > > Still a good requirement, but again information needs to be updated > and checked to make sure all the recommended possibilities still work. > > 3. Required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page > > I'd prefer a pointer to the State page and make the state coordinator > responsible for making the county selection list easily visible and quickly > accessible to visitors. > > Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- > INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm > INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm > INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm > Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html > Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html > > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 18:36:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02495 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DMUFgi002597 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DMT3K28387; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:29:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:29:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Wed Mar 13 15:29:03 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:29:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200203131000530420.008B1B0E@smtp.pacifier.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/142 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ed96595803360f3c5946239956d8802d I don't think we can require CCs to have a query page. They can link to a query page such as the one at Ancestry.com. Why should they duplicate the effort? Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Wed Mar 13 19:06:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA25957 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2DNmJgi013149 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2DNlOQ00776; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:47:24 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:47:24 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Wed Mar 13 16:47:24 2002 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:55:17 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313184137.00a5cc40@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: <40jDNC.A.-L.MU-j8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/143 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a0a3945dbfe6f9ec0a993cb4824206a7 At 06:39 AM 3/13/02 -0500, merope wrote: > From the current guidelines: > >1. requirement to join the state mail list I think this requirement should remain, and the state coordinator guidelines (when we get to those) should be updated to require the SC to maintain a mail list to which all local coordinators are subscribed. >2. requirement to have a query page I've given this one a lot of thought and I know that project-wide there is a wide variety of opinion on this matter. Many people argue that with all the resources now available query postings are antiquated and not of much value, but others note that many of their own breakthroughs came when they ran across a query from someone researching the same family. Its happened to me. The query page requirement is the oldest standing requirement in USGW and to this day query pages remain the most active parts of some webpages (I get 4-5 a day at one county, 2-3 a week at another). So, when it comes down to it I think it should be retained. HOWEVER, I think the requirement to set aside a separate page for queries should be amended, and I also think that LCs should be specifically allowed to make use of any or all of the various automated query boards available (Ancestry, GenForum, local state efforts, etc). So for instance, new wording for the query requirement could read something like this: "Local Coordinators will provide access to a way for visitors to post queries at the local site. Local Coordinators may do this by providing a link to any of the various commercial query message board systems available, such as Ancestry Message Boards or the Genforum Boards [provide URLs], to a system provided by their state or another organization, or by accepting via email and hand-posting them." This will allow those of us who like handposting our queries to continue doing so, and will also allow those who'd rather concentrate on other aspects of their pages to do that as well. >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page I agree that the requirement should be to link to the main state page and not the state county list. -Teresa From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19153 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E4JOgi015040 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E4IW019874; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:18:32 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:18:32 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 21:18:32 2002 Message-ID: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:18:55 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-c-CO.A.X2E.YSCk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/145 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a4bf82728b52fea85eb018a1b0a9cd05 WGW has something better than this. Query Pages or BBS Systems Each county, parish, shire or prefect coordinator (cc) shall be required to maintain a method for researchers to submit queries. The coordinator may choose to administrate a query page/bulletin board system or they may choose to provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The coordinator is free to choose a system/method which works best for their project web site. David Samuelsen Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > I don't think we can require CCs to have a query page. They can link to a > query page such as the one at Ancestry.com. Why should they duplicate the > effort? > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ > Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19480 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E4NXgi015386 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E4MeN27854; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:22:40 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:22:40 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 21:22:39 2002 Message-ID: <3C9025A7.7CDADFCB@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:23:03 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313184137.00a5cc40@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/146 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e1f9757529efedbbcb5a7adb968e077c My comments between merope wrote: > > At 06:39 AM 3/13/02 -0500, merope wrote: > > > From the current guidelines: > > > >1. requirement to join the state mail list > > I think this requirement should remain, and the state coordinator > guidelines (when we get to those) should be updated to require the SC > to maintain a mail list to which all local coordinators are subscribed. And the SC should NOT subject everybody to a receive mode only. > >2. requirement to have a query page > > I've given this one a lot of thought and I know that project-wide there is > a wide variety of opinion on this matter. Many people argue that with all > the resources now available query postings are antiquated and not of much > value, but others note that many of their own breakthroughs came when they > ran across a query from someone researching the same family. Its happened > to me. My comment on this one in other message > The query page requirement is the oldest standing requirement in USGW and > to this day query pages remain the most active parts of some webpages (I > get 4-5 a day at one county, 2-3 a week at another). So, when it comes > down to it I think it should be retained. Some counties have so little resources, that a query system is only way to get more info. > HOWEVER, I think the requirement to set aside a separate page for queries > should be amended, and I also think that LCs should be specifically allowed > to make use of any or all of the various automated query boards available > (Ancestry, GenForum, local state efforts, etc). Comment in other message > So for instance, new wording for the query requirement could read something > like this: > > "Local Coordinators will provide access to a way for visitors to post > queries at the local site. Local Coordinators may do this by providing a > link to any of the various commercial query message board systems > available, such as Ancestry Message Boards or the Genforum Boards [provide > URLs], to a system provided by their state or another organization, or by > accepting via email and hand-posting them." > > This will allow those of us who like handposting our queries to continue > doing so, and will also allow those who'd rather concentrate on other > aspects of their pages to do that as well. > > >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page > > I agree that the requirement should be to link to the main state page and > not the state county list. > > -Teresa From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA02375 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E5Q3Cl003432 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E4Zkl12423; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:35:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:35:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Wed Mar 13 21:35:45 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313233057.00b6f700@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:37:03 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2E4ZjI12394 Resent-Message-ID: <0cNJ3.A.3BD.iiCk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/147 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 611c2fce7a260ee72b86668babd98e22 At 06:39 AM 3/13/02 -0500, merope wrote: >After reviewing the bylaws and the current guidelines here are the current >requirements for Local Coordinators: > > From the current guidelines: > >1. requirement to join the state mail list This is a given. In order to keep up with what is going on in the state you are a CC in, you need to be subbed to a state list. Most of the states that I am a CC in have relatively quiet lists. But this is where the Important USGW stuff is posted. like election notices for "groups", announcements for nominations, and good stuff like that. Other states that I have been on have very active State lists. Lots of stuff on them may be just good old fashioned chit-chat in addition to the more important stuff. It is a way to keep in touch with the rest of the state. >2. requirement to have a query page A query page on the site is not necessarily the answer. I use the "boards" of Ancestry. I tried the manual query thing, and the CC-helper thing. After almost going bald, I decided that the "boards" are much better for me, personally. *Requirement to have "access" to a query site" might be a better phrase. >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page County selection page is rather cumbersome. I think that a link to the main *state* page would be better. Most entry state pages have a link to the county selection page, in addition to some listings of other things on the state level. If linked to the county selection page, some of the other better state level stuff might be missed by the researcher. Just my 2¢ worth... Sunny From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 07:21:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA16620 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FBw8Cl025810 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FBvMt29484; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 04:57:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 04:57:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 15 04:57:21 2002 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:05:13 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question In-reply-to: <3C917DBB.FD860A3F@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315070118.00a71ba0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061419.00a6d630@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/158 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b59ec17b9445dc5e65d01adcc317ed2a At 09:51 PM 3/14/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >I am in favor of this specific title. As am I. This gives us five members who prefer the title "Guidelines for Local Coordinators" and 2 who have said they prefer the title "Web Page Guidelines for Local Coordinators." Three of us have not stated a preference. So for now at least, the working title of our proposal will be "Guidelines for Local Coordinators". Thank you all for your comments! -Teresa >David From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 06:49:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11997 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2F4pfCl017386 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2F4omU04943; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:50:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:50:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Thu Mar 14 21:50:48 2002 Message-ID: <3C917DBB.FD860A3F@sampubco.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:51:07 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061419.00a6d630@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2cZOi.A.ENB.o2Xk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/156 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b45170ddd0f39d19fd2fd2791ce090c3 I am in favor of this specific title. David merope wrote: > > At 10:14 PM 3/13/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: > >Madame Chairman, > > > >I call the question on the title of the Guidelines. > > > >"Guidelines for Local Coordinators" > > > >W. David Samuelsen > > David, I have already asked people to state their preferences for the title > of the page. So far, five of us have responded. I will give folks another > 24 hours to respond. > > Should I put you down as being in favor of the above title? > > -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 06:49:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA12019 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2F4q7Cl017449 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2F4pCQ05347; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:51:12 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:51:12 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Thu Mar 14 21:51:12 2002 Message-ID: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:51:32 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1oc0hC.A.UTB.A3Xk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/157 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f0613a23f7de411938332e95f709b3d5 go ahead. David merope wrote: > > At 10:13 PM 3/13/02 -0800, DC & Alice Allen wrote: > >This is nicely worded, I think something similar would work for our needs > >as well. > > I like it too. David, would WGW mind if we adapted it? > > -Teresa From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA07555 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E6cICl010514 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E6bGp05546; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:37:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:37:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 23:37:15 2002 Message-ID: <3C904530.376F11A0@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:37:36 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <200203132213310170.0329F2FA@smtp.pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/152 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0aeb17e18ac85426363bc591e1212165 This is the EXACT wording direct from WGW's Policies and Procedures. I should know because I am member of WGW Board governing the WGW Project. David DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > This is nicely worded, I think something similar would work for our needs as well. > > Alice A > USGenWeb Project CC for > > Marshall Co., KS > Geauga Co., OH > Seneca Co., OH > Clark Co., WA > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/13/02 at 9:18 PM W David Samuelsen wrote: > > >WGW has something better than this. > > > >Query Pages or BBS Systems > > > >Each county, parish, shire or prefect coordinator (cc) shall be > >required to maintain a method for researchers to submit queries. The > >coordinator may choose to administrate a query page/bulletin board > >system or they may choose to provide a link to an existing message > >board related to their region. > >The coordinator is free to choose a system/method which works best > >for their project web site. > > > >David Samuelsen > > From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 18:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13898 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2ENTrCl010420 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2ENT0V32134; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:29:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:29:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Thu Mar 14 16:28:51 2002 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:14:13 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <200203132213310170.0329F2FA@smtp.pacifier.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/155 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8d0a6a64374a68e652a2d8360095e0ea At 10:13 PM 3/13/02 -0800, DC & Alice Allen wrote: >This is nicely worded, I think something similar would work for our needs >as well. I like it too. David, would WGW mind if we adapted it? -Teresa From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 18:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13892 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2ENTpCl010416 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2ENSrX30940; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:28:53 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:28:53 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Thu Mar 14 16:28:51 2002 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:23:04 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question In-reply-to: <3C9031BC.901DE74D@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061419.00a6d630@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/154 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: df413f03d6c4f5a99dc11c764e546a62 At 10:14 PM 3/13/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >Madame Chairman, > >I call the question on the title of the Guidelines. > >"Guidelines for Local Coordinators" > >W. David Samuelsen David, I have already asked people to state their preferences for the title of the page. So far, five of us have responded. I will give folks another 24 hours to respond. Should I put you down as being in favor of the above title? -Teresa From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA01502 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E5DACl001943 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E5CGB22548; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:12:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:12:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Wed Mar 13 22:12:16 2002 Message-ID: <3C903147.CE7D1BF3@sampubco.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:12:39 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313233057.00b6f700@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/148 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4551b7c05e9397816d90105a292015a5 including helping each other with problems and solutions, and alert others of sources. David Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome wrote: > > At 06:39 AM 3/13/02 -0500, merope wrote: > >After reviewing the bylaws and the current guidelines here are the current > >requirements for Local Coordinators: > > > > From the current guidelines: > > > >1. requirement to join the state mail list > > This is a given. In order to keep up with what is going on in the state you > are a CC in, you need to be subbed to a state list. Most of the states that > I am a CC in have relatively quiet lists. But this is where the Important > USGW stuff is posted. like election notices for "groups", announcements for > nominations, and good stuff like that. Other states that I have been on > have very active State lists. Lots of stuff on them may be just good old > fashioned chit-chat in addition to the more important stuff. It is a way to > keep in touch with the rest of the state. > > >2. requirement to have a query page > > A query page on the site is not necessarily the answer. I use the "boards" > of Ancestry. I tried the manual query thing, and the CC-helper thing. After > almost going bald, I decided that the "boards" are much better for me, > personally. *Requirement to have "access" to a query site" might be a > better phrase. > > >3. required to have a pointer to county selection list for their page > > County selection page is rather cumbersome. I think that a link to the main > *state* page would be better. Most entry state pages have a link to the > county selection page, in addition to some listings of other things on the > state level. If linked to the county selection page, some of the other > better state level stuff might be missed by the researcher. > > Just my 2¢ worth... > Sunny From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA01460 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E5JeCl002735 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E5FjE26566; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:15:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:15:45 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Wed Mar 13 22:15:45 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020314001532.00b32af0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:17:03 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-Reply-To: <3C903147.CE7D1BF3@sampubco.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313233057.00b6f700@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/150 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b6db7e1e08a52fc77e92db86d452fbd6 At 10:12 PM 3/13/02 -0700, you wrote: >including helping each other with problems and solutions, and >alert others of sources. Of course.. I should have thought of that one, especially since I'm ASC in a tech capacity in two states!! Sunny From ???@??? Thu Mar 14 06:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA06223 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2E6GXCl008420 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:16:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2E6FU314597; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:15:30 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:15:30 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Wed Mar 13 23:15:30 2002 Message-ID: <200203132213310170.0329F2FA@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:13:31 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2E6FUI14572 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/151 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 669fe69593c0af69906ba4d8e772658b This is nicely worded, I think something similar would work for our needs as well. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/13/02 at 9:18 PM W David Samuelsen wrote: >WGW has something better than this. > >Query Pages or BBS Systems > >Each county, parish, shire or prefect coordinator (cc) shall be >required to maintain a method for researchers to submit queries. The >coordinator may choose to administrate a query page/bulletin board >system or they may choose to provide a link to an existing message >board related to their region. >The coordinator is free to choose a system/method which works best >for their project web site. > >David Samuelsen > From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 07:34:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17867 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FCDnCl027207 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FCD3Y21967; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:13:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:13:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 15 05:12:59 2002 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:20:53 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313233057.00b6f700@earthlink.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315071917.00a5cec0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: <2wL3e.A.nWF.OVek8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/159 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 53a9d65f1300bda2476a0a274fc6f2ea At 11:37 PM 3/13/02 -0500, Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome wrote: >>1. requirement to join the state mail list > >This is a given. In order to keep up with what is going on in the state >you are a CC in, you need to be subbed to a state list. Most of the states >that I am a CC in have relatively quiet lists. But this is where the >Important USGW stuff is posted. like election notices for "groups", >announcements for nominations, and good stuff like that. Other states that >I have been on have very active State lists. Lots of stuff on them may be >just good old fashioned chit-chat in addition to the more important stuff. >It is a way to keep in touch with the rest of the state. This has reminded me of another requirement for LCs, pertaining to mailing lists, and that is they are automatically subscribed to the Election Committee's announcement list. We should note this in the requirements so that it doesn;t come as a surprise to anyone. -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 07:34:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18759 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FCPXCl028344 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FCOjh07710; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:24:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:24:45 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 15 05:24:41 2002 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:32:35 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20020313233057.00b6f700@earthlink.net> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/160 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b297011b14b3fb77c202f5f25a8862f1 At 11:37 PM 3/13/02 -0500, Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome wrote: >County selection page is rather cumbersome. I think that a link to the >main *state* page would be better. Most entry state pages have a link to >the county selection page, in addition to some listings of other things on >the state level. If linked to the county selection page, some of the other >better state level stuff might be missed by the researcher. After reviewing the comments thus far, there is general agreement that this should be changed to require a link to the main state page, rather than the state county selection list. In reviewing the current bylaws and guidelines I note that there is currently no requirement for LCs to link to the USGenWeb home page. Should we add this as a requirement? Makes sense to me to do so, and it will certainly help our visitors. -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 07:49:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA19589 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FCaYCl029382 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FCZlw17854; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:35:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 05:35:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 15 05:35:47 2002 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:42:59 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-reply-to: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/161 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 885c5a49c79bde6734d0044f44d3b4b1 At 09:51 PM 3/14/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >go ahead. Thanks David, on behalf of the committee. :) In reviewing the comments thus far on this subtopic (queries), nearly all of us that have responded thus far are in favor of retaining the requirement but amending it somewhat. Specifically, it is no longer necessary that the LCs maintain a "query page", but they should still provide a method for submitting and viewing queries as a part of their website. David has been kind enough to give us permission to adapt WGW's statement on this topic, and this is what I have come up with: "Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." Does this work for everyone? If it turns out that the P/P committee will be providing a list of resources and that list includes query mechanisms, then we can link directly to their list. If not, we can provide the links to some of these resources ourselves. -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 12:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA21295 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FD15Cl001852 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FD0Iu08594; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:00:18 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:00:18 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Fri Mar 15 06:00:18 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315075403.00b3a890@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:01:31 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> References: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/162 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 30118d8631f48b788e7a36dbc4b8c61a At 07:42 AM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote: > >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers >to submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." > >Does this work for everyone? I like it. This way the LC's aren't "forced" into using something they are not comfortable with or have a *really* hard time with. (speaking from experience! ) Sunny From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 12:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA21604 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FD4vCl002270 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FD4B417195; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:04:11 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 06:04:11 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Fri Mar 15 06:04:09 2002 Message-Id: X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:08:41 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> References: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2FD49I17100 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/163 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 98042bcad6a417435f16fbeabb5447ac Because researchers will find advertisement on some of the web sites pointed to and no link at those web sites to return them to the LCs pages, we might suggest to the LCs to place a disclaimer on the link informing the researchers that the query system to which they are being pointed is not a part of The USGenWeb Project. Don At 06:42 AM 03/15/2002, you wrote: >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to >submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." > >Does this work for everyone? > >If it turns out that the P/P committee will be providing a list of >resources and that list includes query mechanisms, then we can link >directly to their list. If not, we can provide the links to some of these >resources ourselves. > >-Teresa > From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 12:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26847 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FE2oCl008558 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FE23W17537; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:02:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:02:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Fri Mar 15 07:02:02 2002 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:06:15 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> References: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2FE22I17514 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/164 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9db928c203394a80b30b1a73cb5484ad When you change the proposed paragraph are you throwing out the links that are there at present or are you proposing to include the links - as is? If as is, who will be reworking the links on the pages to which the links are pointed. The query management page needs to be redone completely. Don At 06:42 AM 03/15/2002, you wrote: >At 09:51 PM 3/14/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >>go ahead. > > >Thanks David, on behalf of the committee. :) > >In reviewing the comments thus far on this subtopic (queries), nearly all >of us that have responded thus far are in favor of retaining the >requirement but amending it somewhat. Specifically, it is no longer >necessary that the LCs maintain a "query page", but they should still >provide a method for submitting and viewing queries as a part of their >website. David has been kind enough to give us permission to adapt WGW's >statement on this topic, and this is what I have come up with: > >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to >submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." > >Does this work for everyone? > >If it turns out that the P/P committee will be providing a list of >resources and that list includes query mechanisms, then we can link >directly to their list. If not, we can provide the links to some of these >resources ourselves. > >-Teresa > From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 12:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01179 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FEkaCl013891 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FEj7m15436; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:45:07 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:45:07 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Fri Mar 15 07:45:06 2002 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:49:15 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2FEj6I15408 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/165 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d3cce60dacd98936ad5f56f66b7d3de8 At 06:32 AM 03/15/2002, you wrote: > >In reviewing the current bylaws and guidelines I note that there is >currently no requirement for LCs to link to the USGenWeb home page. Should >we add this as a requirement? Makes sense to me to do so, and it will >certainly help our visitors. > >-Teresa > Most LCs do include a link to the project so a requirement wouldn't be an imposition. Many include the link in the logo and if the logo is required it could serves two purposes. Later in the guidelines there is a recommendation that the LCs link to the project page. If we require a link this recommendation would need to be eliminated.. Could the paragraph be written to read: The USGenWeb Project logo as well as a link to the project's home page should be prominently displayed on your page. If you wish, the two may be combined. In addition your state might have an official state logo that you will be expected to have on your page. [The word logo above could provide a link to the logo page and the words main page could provide a link to the projects home page.] Don From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 15:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20401 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FHeOCl007081 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FHdSB07083; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:39:28 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:39:28 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 15 10:39:28 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061419.00a6d630@radix.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/166 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: bc2b182bb11af64447413ab47d39c787 I don't really have a preference. I'm sure we can explain it to the CCs. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 15:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21401 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FHnVCl008333 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FHmH727358; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:48:17 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:48:17 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 15 10:48:16 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/167 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 2b51a79843cf882ebd629d1ca8abca44 That works for me. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al -----Original Message----- From: merope [mailto:merope@Radix.Net] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:43 AM To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries At 09:51 PM 3/14/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >go ahead. Thanks David, on behalf of the committee. :) In reviewing the comments thus far on this subtopic (queries), nearly all of us that have responded thus far are in favor of retaining the requirement but amending it somewhat. Specifically, it is no longer necessary that the LCs maintain a "query page", but they should still provide a method for submitting and viewing queries as a part of their website. David has been kind enough to give us permission to adapt WGW's statement on this topic, and this is what I have come up with: "Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." Does this work for everyone? If it turns out that the P/P committee will be providing a list of resources and that list includes query mechanisms, then we can link directly to their list. If not, we can provide the links to some of these resources ourselves. -Teresa --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 15:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21578 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FHpOCl008564 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FHoWc01450; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:50:32 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:50:32 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 15 10:50:31 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:50:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315075403.00b3a890@earthlink.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/168 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a3974e6c3663160f81256408b0cee6f7 I like the idea of a disclaimer stating the link to queries takes them off the USGenWeb site and we are not responsible etc. I think I'll add that, requirement or not. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 15:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28165 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FIquCl016402 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FIq5S02079; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:52:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:52:05 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Fri Mar 15 11:52:05 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020315134928.00afc7e0@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:49:41 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/170 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c150284c46355d3d67c2bbc493c0c04d At 12:48 PM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote: >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to >submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." That sounds like it will work. Morgan From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10654 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FKkvCl001853 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FKk4j05516; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:46:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:46:04 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 15 13:46:03 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:46:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3C924041.3B252D9C@sampubco.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/171 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6a1cbba9b5950cd6c6bce202e896ec71 We haven't had to maintain a query system on our pages for some time, could link. If we have no requirement for anything but logos and subscription to the state list then totally useless county pages are acceptable. A blank page with a logo is acceptable. You can complain if they don't meet the requirements and the blank page would meet the requirements. I think we need to think about that. Cheryl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12491 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FL3HCl004075 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FL2Np04885; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:23 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:23 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Fri Mar 15 14:02:23 2002 Message-ID: <200203151300170610.0075D914@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:00:17 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2FL2NI04856 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/174 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: cef60d138146ed6e2e4a2dd8861d45bf Me too. Many are not aware that some of these are not USGenWeb entities. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/15/02 at 12:50 PM Cheryl Rothwell wrote: >I like the idea of a disclaimer stating the link to queries takes them off >the USGenWeb site and we are not responsible etc. I think I'll add that, >requirement or not. From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12480 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FL3ECl004066 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FL2L004732; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Fri Mar 15 14:02:21 2002 Message-ID: <200203151300190580.0075E0BC@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> References: <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:00:19 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <3icIDC.A.qJB.dFmk8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/172 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7a52e1cfe7dd5f95e4c7536da12c7f0f Works for me. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/15/02 at 7:42 AM merope wrote: > >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers >to >submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." > >Does this work for everyone? From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12484 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FL3GCl004072 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FL2NA04816; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:23 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:02:23 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Fri Mar 15 14:02:23 2002 Message-ID: <200203151300210560.0075E894@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:00:21 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/173 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 01de7342e0c7b0707183cfff408a6dc9 I think it should be added as a requirement for LC's as well. USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/15/02 at 7:32 AM merope wrote: > >In reviewing the current bylaws and guidelines I note that there is >currently no requirement for LCs to link to the USGenWeb home page. >Should >we add this as a requirement? Makes sense to me to do so, and it will >certainly help our visitors. > >-Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22206 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FMbpCl016678 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FMb0k14705; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:37:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:37:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Fri Mar 15 15:37:00 2002 Message-ID: <3C92779B.E081A6A6@sampubco.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:37:15 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> <200203151300210560.0075E894@smtp.pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/175 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d508cfad0cfd74c7b4f10e67275ba6d8 can we hold this one and take care of the query requirement before moving on other provisions. There are new ones I want to propose but rather wait until the easy ones are taken care of first. David DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > I think it should be added as a requirement for LC's as well. > > USGenWeb Project CC for > > Marshall Co., KS > Geauga Co., OH > Seneca Co., OH > Clark Co., WA > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/15/02 at 7:32 AM merope wrote: > > > > >In reviewing the current bylaws and guidelines I note that there is > >currently no requirement for LCs to link to the USGenWeb home page. > >Should > >we add this as a requirement? Makes sense to me to do so, and it will > >certainly help our visitors. > > > >-Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26623 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FNOdCl022322 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FNNmH26615; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:23:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:23:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Fri Mar 15 16:23:47 2002 Message-ID: <012f01c1cc78$729b0b70$4cbb41d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061419.00a6d630@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315070118.00a71ba0@radix.net> Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Call the question Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:23:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/176 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 49f332e16b40d6fece8a4ce65e218db9 I also like Guidelines for Local Coordinators Sorry - been busy with meetings, etc. this week. Jan Cortez > At 09:51 PM 3/14/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: > >I am in favor of this specific title. > > > As am I. > > This gives us five members who prefer the title "Guidelines for Local > Coordinators" and 2 who have said they prefer the title "Web Page > Guidelines for Local Coordinators." Three of us have not stated a preference. > > So for now at least, the working title of our proposal will be "Guidelines > for Local Coordinators". > > Thank you all for your comments! > > -Teresa > > > >David > > From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03697 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2G0qbCl001881 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2G0plt31680; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:51:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:51:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Fri Mar 15 17:51:46 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020315195056.021e82e8@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:52:01 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-Reply-To: <3C92779B.E081A6A6@sampubco.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> <200203151300210560.0075E894@smtp.pacifier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/177 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: fa558f3a674c8ae4cb9b5afc0057ccf1 Shouldn't we not worry about covering only one thread at a time? We can talk about more than one topic if need be. We could drag our revision process out a long time if we only discuss one thing at a time and wait for everyone's feedback. Morgan At 03:37 PM 3/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: >can we hold this one and take care of the query requirement before >moving on other provisions. There are new ones I want to propose >but rather wait until the easy ones are taken care of first. > >David > >DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > > > I think it should be added as a requirement for LC's as well. > > > > USGenWeb Project CC for > > > > Marshall Co., KS > > Geauga Co., OH > > Seneca Co., OH > > Clark Co., WA > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > On 3/15/02 at 7:32 AM merope wrote: > > > > > > > >In reviewing the current bylaws and guidelines I note that there is > > >currently no requirement for LCs to link to the USGenWeb home page. > > >Should > > >we add this as a requirement? Makes sense to me to do so, and it will > > >certainly help our visitors. > > > > > >-Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:15:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA06149 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2G1L8Cl004984 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2G1KGM09864; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:20:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:20:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: hollyft@bright.net Fri Mar 15 18:20:16 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315201651.0368cc40@mail.bright.net> X-Sender: hollyft@mail.bright.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:23:24 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Holly Timm Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> References: <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/178 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0434903b91bc3ec7cecfc7d4f5e1bad0 At 07:42 AM 3/15/02 -0500, merope wrote: >"Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers >to submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to >administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to >provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The >coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their >project web site." > >Does this work for everyone? I think this is excellent. In regards to a disclaimer about not being part of the site, I think this is a good idea, might also be good to suggest saying something like "click your back button to return to this site" >If it turns out that the P/P committee will be providing a list of >resources and that list includes query mechanisms, then we can link >directly to their list. If not, we can provide the links to some of these >resources ourselves. Would you like me to bring this up over there? I know there has been some discussion already about helping pages for html and other web site related items. Since that's an ongoing project I think it would be quite suitable for pub/promo to take on such a query resource page. Holly From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 08:49:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24071 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GDS8Cl007233 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GDRLU20831; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:27:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:27:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 06:27:21 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:35:13 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-reply-to: X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316083048.00a72cb0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020315073632.00a6b770@radix.net> <3C917DD4.1390C7D0@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <3C9024AF.4B7D830C@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020314061337.00a6b550@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/179 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 52ad11ea1106e79bf661d72e350af5fd At 08:06 AM 3/15/02 -0600, Don Tharp wrote: >When you change the proposed paragraph are you throwing out the links that are >there at present or are you proposing to include the links - as is? If as is, >who will be reworking the links on the pages to which the links are pointed. >The query management page needs to be redone completely. I think its better at this time to just work on the wording of the revised guidelines. Once those are completed and we are happy with them, we can begin working on links. I actually think that since there will be no one who's specific job it is to maintain these guidelines other than the webmaster we might want to have as few links on this page as possible and have someone like the P/P committee actually maintain the pages of links. We can just link to their work if that is the case. -Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 09:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24671 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GDcuCl008141 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GDc8h06353; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:38:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:38:08 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 06:38:08 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:46:03 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316084424.00a74980@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/180 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4a388c956c560104caab9279c079bcd9 At 08:49 AM 3/15/02 -0600, Don Tharp wrote: >Later in the guidelines there is a recommendation that the LCs link to the >project page. If we require a link this recommendation would need to be >eliminated.. > >Could the paragraph be written to read: > >The USGenWeb Project logo as well as a link to the project's home page >should be >prominently displayed on your page. If you wish, the two may be combined. In >addition your state might have an official state logo that you will be >expected >to have on your page. Because the "logo requirement" is in the bylaws, I would recommend that it be listed separately. The "link to USGW" requirement I think should be listed in a "required links" section, along with the requirement to link to the state page. -Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 09:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24745 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GDelCl008299 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GDe0E08047; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:40:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:40:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 06:40:00 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:47:54 -0500 From: merope Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries In-reply-to: X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316084707.00a6ca80@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3C924041.3B252D9C@sampubco.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/181 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 613943ebc5e152b98e792ea644fa8a72 At 03:46 PM 3/15/02 -0500, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: >We haven't had to maintain a query system on our pages for some time, could >link. If we have no requirement for anything but logos and subscription to >the state list then totally useless county pages are acceptable. A blank >page with a logo is acceptable. You can complain if they don't meet the >requirements and the blank page would meet the requirements. I think we need >to think about that. I agree with Cheryl on this one. If we remove the requirement to even link to queries we may end up with content-less pages. -Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 09:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24967 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GDhTCl008646 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GDgfs14246; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:42:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:42:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 06:42:41 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:50:15 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <3C92779B.E081A6A6@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316084820.00a74080@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> <200203151300210560.0075E894@smtp.pacifier.com> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/182 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8c63aadfffc784f7c88dbbcbfc28714f At 03:37 PM 3/15/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >can we hold this one and take care of the query requirement before >moving on other provisions. There are new ones I want to propose >but rather wait until the easy ones are taken care of first. We are currently discussing the queries, links and mailing list issues. We will discuss adding items when the discussion of the current guidelines is finished. -Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 09:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25245 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GDmmCl009120 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GDj1x20706; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:45:01 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 06:45:01 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 06:45:01 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:52:56 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020315195056.021e82e8@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316085051.00a70640@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3C92779B.E081A6A6@sampubco.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020313063059.00a6c750@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020315072941.00a5cc20@radix.net> <200203151300210560.0075E894@smtp.pacifier.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4zq_H.A.TDF.dx0k8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/183 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b982c05c44792157bff295b66bcd22b9 At 07:52 PM 3/15/02 -0500, Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: >Shouldn't we not worry about covering only one thread at a time? We can >talk about more than one topic if need be. >We could drag our revision process out a long time if we only discuss one >thing at a time and wait for everyone's feedback. I would rather not have an unlimited number of threads going at one time. It gets too easy to lose comments or for people to follow the thread of a specific issue. We are currently discussing the three current main requirements. Since there seems to be good basic agreement on these items, we will move on to the next set of topics shortly, probably tomorrow. -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 15 15:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27060 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FIfhCl014950 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2FIep009918; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:40:51 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:40:51 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Fri Mar 15 11:40:51 2002 Message-ID: <3C924041.3B252D9C@sampubco.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:41:05 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/169 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7e057f4cc0bc8f81844465751a0c47ed The original one - we HAD to be the ones to maintain a query system The proposal do away with the REQUIREMENT itself. Just encourage the links to various message systems as well as giving the LC the option of maintaining his/her own query system. David Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > I like the idea of a disclaimer stating the link to queries takes them off > the USGenWeb site and we are not responsible etc. I think I'll add that, > requirement or not. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ > Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 09:32:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26620 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GEBpCl011077 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GEB4N27143; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:11:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:11:04 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Sat Mar 16 07:11:03 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <69.23b5d2fd.29c4ac66@aol.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:10:46 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements/queries Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <9K5KW.A.2nG.4J1k8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/184 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: dd5fc59f6277f1f20d40415df0af4d46 In a message dated 3/15/02 7:36:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time, merope@Radix.Net writes: > "Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to > submit and view genealogical queries. The coordinator may choose to > administrate a query page or message board system or they may choose to > provide a link to an existing message board related to their region. The > coordinator is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their > project web site." This works for me and I agree that LC's should link to the USGenWeb Page. > Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- > INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm > INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm > INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm > Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html > Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html > > From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 10:38:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27873 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GEWiCl012954 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GEVuA28228; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:31:56 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:31:56 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sat Mar 16 07:31:56 2002 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:39:50 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020316093456.00a71e40@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Working document Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/185 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: edd65dc2278fbc58a3a8edaf103efe8f Good morning everyone, I have created a "working document" to keep us all up to date on what we've discussed/decided so far. Its located at: http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt Now, note that its not fancy. Its still a text file, there are no links, and some of the wording could probably stand some redoing. Its a working document and will probably change a lot in the upcoming weeks. But I would like you all to take a look at it when you have the chance and give me whatever feedback you'd like. I have incorporated all topics we've discussed so far, and included your suggestions for the wording of recommendations when you've made them. Organization is more or less in the order we've discussed and/or settled on something. This will remain online throughout our work and I will update it as needed and let you all know when a new version is online. Thanks! -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Sat Mar 16 18:36:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA29759 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2GM5HCl027428 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2GM4QZ32226; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:04:26 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:04:26 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Sat Mar 16 15:04:25 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020315195056.021e82e8@mail.usroots.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/186 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 37f5e6184d56157a0ca6698790770d9d I tend to favor sticking to one topic at a time. Otherwise we will be all over the place and it will get out of hand. Cheryl -----Original Message----- From: Morgan Edward Johnson [mailto:morgan@usroots.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:52 PM To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] TOPIC: LC requirements Shouldn't we not worry about covering only one thread at a time? We can talk about more than one topic if need be. We could drag our revision process out a long time if we only discuss one thing at a time and wait for everyone's feedback. Morgan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From ???@??? Sun Mar 17 17:36:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18185 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.pwebtech.com (outgoing.pwebtech.com [64.21.143.152] (may be forged)) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g2HHjxCl005423 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13309 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 17:46:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sampubco.com) (208.187.59.171) by rt1.pwebtech.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 17:46:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3C94D65C.A47AF335@sampubco.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:46:04 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: merope@radix.net Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 02d0fd8472f0e861a4e46cbcecf20502 you need to make amended update. (from the other message I posted to the committee). David merope wrote: > > Permission to forward is granted > > GUIDELINES COMMITTEE WEEKLY REPORT, for the week ending March 16 2002 > > === > > On March 10, Holly Timm announced the formation of the Guidelines > Committee. Teresa Lindquist called the meeting to order on March > 11. These are the 10 committee members and a bit about each one: > > Teresa Lindquist (Chair): with USGW since August 1996, coordinator for two > Kansas counties and a co-coordinator on another; currently serve as the > Representative At Large on the Advisory Board; publisher of the Daily Board > Show; formerly served on the Election Study Committee and on the > predecessor to this committee, the Guidelines "starter" committee. > > Alice Allen: CC for 4 counties--1 in KS, 2 in OH, 1 in WA > > Jan Cortez: WI Census Project; CC for NY, WI, MI, IA,VT,PA, and OH. > > Morgan Johnson: county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one > county in Illinois since 1996. > > Rich Howland: [did not respond to roll call] > > William David Samuelson: Baker and Grant County, Oregon > > Don Tharp: CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project > since 1996. > > Cheryl Parker: hosts 3 counties in Indiana, one being the Unknown County > page; also hosts 2 county biography pages in Indiana > > Cheryl Rothwell: CC for Logan County, IL > > Lorraine Newsome: CC in Ohio, SD, AR, MI, WI, NY (also ASC), and IL (also > ASC); on the EC as a rep for the NE/NC Region > > --- > > The Chair announces that the order of discussion will be to proceed through > the current guidelines for Local Coordinators, State Coordinators and > Special Projects and recommend revisions. Then additions to the guidelines > will be discussed. The Chair also announces that a weekly report will be > filed to the Project outlining progress. > > --- > > First topic opened for discussion on March 11 is the title of the revised > guidelines. After some discussion, the title "Guidelines for Local > Coordinators" was selected on March 14. This title is recommended both > because the term "Local Coordinators" is used throughout the bylaws, and > because it covers a wider base of volunteers than the more commonly used > "County Coordinators". > > --- > > Second topic opened for discussion is the "requirements for Local > Coordinators". This topic was opened for discussion on March 13. There > are currently 2 requirements for Local Coordinators: 1. All websites shall > include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home > page. 2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is > defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites > comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for > server space, to do look-ups, etc. These cannot be changed by the > Committee, but will be listed for recommendation for inclusion in updated > guidelines. > > In the current Guidelines there are three other requirements: 1. > requirement to join the state mail list; 2. requirement to have a query > page; and 3. requirement to link to the county selection list for their state. > > State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join > a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines > for State Coordinators. It is suggested that the requirement to join a > state mailing list be retained and the SC guidelines updated to match that > requirement. It is also suggested that a notice informing the volunteers > of a mandatory subscription to USGENWEB-NATL-L, the Election Committee's > announcement list, should be included in the guidelines. > > Queries: It is the decision of the group to retain an amended query > requirement. Local Coordinators will be required to provide a mechanism by > which visitors to their pages can submit and view queries, but the specific > method shall be left up to their discretion. It is also suggested that LCs > add disclaimers to their sites when they are linking to outside query > resources and that they provide instruction on how visitors may return to > their pages after visiting them. > > --- > > On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed > revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and > will be updated as needed. > > Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at merope@radix.net > > === > > -Teresa Lindquist > Chair, Guidelines Committee > Representative At Large, USGenWeb Project > merope@radix.net > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. From ???@??? Sun Mar 17 17:36:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03476 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail5.kscable.com (fe5.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.52]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HLMLCl025238 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from chubbo ([65.29.242.40]) by mail5.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:20:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20020317152720.01daa3b0@skpub.com> X-Sender: jschunk@skpub.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:27:20 -0600 To: merope@radix.net From: John Schunk Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 67b58b31b4ba6d58aeed62ea205bbfe5 12:10 PM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote: >On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed >revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and >will be updated as needed. > >Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at merope@radix.net > Hi Teresa, Thanks for informing us about the work of the Guidelines Committee. Please forward these comments to the Committee for their consideration -- 1. The suggested requirement that Local Coordinators provide a link on their home page to the main USGenWeb Project page is a new requirement, correct? I don't recall hearing anyone make suggestions along this line prior to this report, so I am curious as to whether this is something that most Project members want. When I was gathering sample pages for the service mark application, I was surprised to discover how many main Local pages do not even meet the logo requirement. There are even a greater number that have a logo without a link. So if compliance with a logo requirement is not currently being attained, how will Local Coordinators react to an additional link requirement? 2. Probably not important, but I couldn't figure out what the contradiction referred to by the following is -- >State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join >a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines >for State Coordinators. 3. Regarding disclaimers that USGenWeb is not affiliated with non-USGenWeb message systems, I'm not sure the definition of "non-USGenWeb" is entirely clear. For example, is a query system maintained by the local genealogy society in the county which I coordinate a "non-USGenWeb" system? Would I need a public disclaimer that USGenWeb is not affiliated with the local genealogy society? Are Query Express/Surname Helper "non-USGenWeb" systems? 4. In item 5, someone might want to clean up the grammar in "You is free to choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." Thanks for taking these items into consideration. John Schunk Sedgwick County KSGenWeb From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 06:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA15911 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.pwebtech.com (outgoing.pwebtech.com [64.21.143.152] (may be forged)) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g2I6uGCl018173 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 641 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2002 06:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sampubco.com) (208.187.59.159) by rt1.pwebtech.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2002 06:56:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3C958F96.DB3E30D1@sampubco.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:56:22 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: merope Subject: tell tim! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 54588716689437c3f2b2c1b6c84de434 Guidelines will NOT be approved by the membership, because the original guidelines were NEVER voted in. Only that the common-sense and AB developed them early before the bylaws. Tell Tim the dunkhead thatthe guidelines will be easily accepted by the whole AB and phased in. David Samuelsen From ???@??? Sun Mar 17 12:18:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15006 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HH4lCl001536 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2HH2lt11306; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:02:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:02:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sun Mar 17 10:02:45 2002 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:10:39 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Daily Board Show , BOARD-L@rootsweb.com, USGenWeb list , USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Resent-Message-ID: To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8608 X-Loop: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BOARD-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b8ad5d97b5c98bd97ed71c54a5dc78aa Permission to forward is granted GUIDELINES COMMITTEE WEEKLY REPORT, for the week ending March 16 2002 === On March 10, Holly Timm announced the formation of the Guidelines Committee. Teresa Lindquist called the meeting to order on March 11. These are the 10 committee members and a bit about each one: Teresa Lindquist (Chair): with USGW since August 1996, coordinator for two Kansas counties and a co-coordinator on another; currently serve as the Representative At Large on the Advisory Board; publisher of the Daily Board Show; formerly served on the Election Study Committee and on the predecessor to this committee, the Guidelines "starter" committee. Alice Allen: CC for 4 counties--1 in KS, 2 in OH, 1 in WA Jan Cortez: WI Census Project; CC for NY, WI, MI, IA,VT,PA, and OH. Morgan Johnson: county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one county in Illinois since 1996. Rich Howland: [did not respond to roll call] William David Samuelson: Baker and Grant County, Oregon Don Tharp: CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project since 1996. Cheryl Parker: hosts 3 counties in Indiana, one being the Unknown County page; also hosts 2 county biography pages in Indiana Cheryl Rothwell: CC for Logan County, IL Lorraine Newsome: CC in Ohio, SD, AR, MI, WI, NY (also ASC), and IL (also ASC); on the EC as a rep for the NE/NC Region --- The Chair announces that the order of discussion will be to proceed through the current guidelines for Local Coordinators, State Coordinators and Special Projects and recommend revisions. Then additions to the guidelines will be discussed. The Chair also announces that a weekly report will be filed to the Project outlining progress. --- First topic opened for discussion on March 11 is the title of the revised guidelines. After some discussion, the title "Guidelines for Local Coordinators" was selected on March 14. This title is recommended both because the term "Local Coordinators" is used throughout the bylaws, and because it covers a wider base of volunteers than the more commonly used "County Coordinators". --- Second topic opened for discussion is the "requirements for Local Coordinators". This topic was opened for discussion on March 13. There are currently 2 requirements for Local Coordinators: 1. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. 2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for server space, to do look-ups, etc. These cannot be changed by the Committee, but will be listed for recommendation for inclusion in updated guidelines. In the current Guidelines there are three other requirements: 1. requirement to join the state mail list; 2. requirement to have a query page; and 3. requirement to link to the county selection list for their state. State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines for State Coordinators. It is suggested that the requirement to join a state mailing list be retained and the SC guidelines updated to match that requirement. It is also suggested that a notice informing the volunteers of a mandatory subscription to USGENWEB-NATL-L, the Election Committee's announcement list, should be included in the guidelines. Queries: It is the decision of the group to retain an amended query requirement. Local Coordinators will be required to provide a mechanism by which visitors to their pages can submit and view queries, but the specific method shall be left up to their discretion. It is also suggested that LCs add disclaimers to their sites when they are linking to outside query resources and that they provide instruction on how visitors may return to their pages after visiting them. --- On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and will be updated as needed. Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at merope@radix.net === -Teresa Lindquist Chair, Guidelines Committee Representative At Large, USGenWeb Project merope@radix.net From ???@??? Sun Mar 17 17:36:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA00632 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from fl-mta02.durocom.com (fl-mta02.durocom.com [216.53.195.243]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HKeSCl021339 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from diane ([216.10.173.158]) by fl-mta02.durocom.com with SMTP id <20020317204022.OXBH683.fl-mta02@diane> for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:40:22 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c1cdf3$d5dc5be0$9ead0ad8@diane> From: "Beaufort" To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> Subject: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:39:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-UIDL: 153a8b1e05b7686374c073984c8844f8 Teresa, I wonder if you could address the issue of a CCs right to interact with other CCs via this required state list. I think that the creation of a read-only state mail list should be declared as Not democratic and contrary to the idea of the free flowing & sharing of informatiion so much toted at the usgenweb project. It is ...and feels like....censorship and oppression...not good for a all volunteer org. thanks, diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "merope" To: "Daily Board Show" ; ; "USGenWeb list" ; Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > FREE COLLEGE MONEY > CLICK HERE to search > 600,000 scholarships! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/0csqlB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > Permission to forward is granted > > GUIDELINES COMMITTEE WEEKLY REPORT, for the week ending March 16 2002 > > === > > On March 10, Holly Timm announced the formation of the Guidelines > Committee. Teresa Lindquist called the meeting to order on March > 11. These are the 10 committee members and a bit about each one: > > > Teresa Lindquist (Chair): with USGW since August 1996, coordinator for two > Kansas counties and a co-coordinator on another; currently serve as the > Representative At Large on the Advisory Board; publisher of the Daily Board > Show; formerly served on the Election Study Committee and on the > predecessor to this committee, the Guidelines "starter" committee. > > Alice Allen: CC for 4 counties--1 in KS, 2 in OH, 1 in WA > > Jan Cortez: WI Census Project; CC for NY, WI, MI, IA,VT,PA, and OH. > > Morgan Johnson: county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one > county in Illinois since 1996. > > Rich Howland: [did not respond to roll call] > > William David Samuelson: Baker and Grant County, Oregon > > Don Tharp: CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project > since 1996. > > Cheryl Parker: hosts 3 counties in Indiana, one being the Unknown County > page; also hosts 2 county biography pages in Indiana > > Cheryl Rothwell: CC for Logan County, IL > > Lorraine Newsome: CC in Ohio, SD, AR, MI, WI, NY (also ASC), and IL (also > ASC); on the EC as a rep for the NE/NC Region > > --- > > The Chair announces that the order of discussion will be to proceed through > the current guidelines for Local Coordinators, State Coordinators and > Special Projects and recommend revisions. Then additions to the guidelines > will be discussed. The Chair also announces that a weekly report will be > filed to the Project outlining progress. > > --- > > First topic opened for discussion on March 11 is the title of the revised > guidelines. After some discussion, the title "Guidelines for Local > Coordinators" was selected on March 14. This title is recommended both > because the term "Local Coordinators" is used throughout the bylaws, and > because it covers a wider base of volunteers than the more commonly used > "County Coordinators". > > --- > > Second topic opened for discussion is the "requirements for Local > Coordinators". This topic was opened for discussion on March 13. There > are currently 2 requirements for Local Coordinators: 1. All websites shall > include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home > page. 2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is > defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites > comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for > server space, to do look-ups, etc. These cannot be changed by the > Committee, but will be listed for recommendation for inclusion in updated > guidelines. > > In the current Guidelines there are three other requirements: 1. > requirement to join the state mail list; 2. requirement to have a query > page; and 3. requirement to link to the county selection list for their state. > > State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join > a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines > for State Coordinators. It is suggested that the requirement to join a > state mailing list be retained and the SC guidelines updated to match that > requirement. It is also suggested that a notice informing the volunteers > of a mandatory subscription to USGENWEB-NATL-L, the Election Committee's > announcement list, should be included in the guidelines. > > Queries: It is the decision of the group to retain an amended query > requirement. Local Coordinators will be required to provide a mechanism by > which visitors to their pages can submit and view queries, but the specific > method shall be left up to their discretion. It is also suggested that LCs > add disclaimers to their sites when they are linking to outside query > resources and that they provide instruction on how visitors may return to > their pages after visiting them. > > --- > > On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed > revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and > will be updated as needed. > > Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at merope@radix.net > > === > > -Teresa Lindquist > Chair, Guidelines Committee > Representative At Large, USGenWeb Project > merope@radix.net > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > dailyboardshow-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 18:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12362 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IDTLCl021602 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:29:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2IDSYN09760; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:28:34 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:28:34 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Mon Mar 18 06:28:33 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020318082700.00b3d200@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:29:48 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318071830.00a85a50@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2IDSXq09737 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/193 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: eb1fec485d5bc857e249037957a41f42 At 07:19 AM 3/18/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Teresa, I wonder if you could address the issue of a CCs right to interact >>with other CCs via this required state list. I think that the creation of a >>read-only state mail list should be declared as Not democratic and contrary >>to the idea of the free flowing & sharing of informatiion so much toted at >>the usgenweb project. It is ...and feels like....censorship and >>oppression...not good for a all volunteer org. wow... I must be truly lucky. I've never been involved in a state where the state list is a read only one. In all the states I've ever "worked", the CC's (or correctly LC's) have been able to post to the state list. I wasn't aware that it was like that anywhere. Sheesh, that's the one that they *should* be able to post to for questions, suggestions, help and all that other good stuff. Just my 2¢ worth... Sunny From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 18:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA14671 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantic.mail.pas.earthlink.net (atlantic.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.179]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IDt9Cl024282 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from dialup-206-16-ks1.southwind.net ([216.236.16.206] helo=dt1012793) by atlantic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16mxbM-0005bY-00 for merope@Radix.Net; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:55:04 -0800 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:59:00 -0600 To: merope@radix.net From: Don Tharp Subject: Queries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: X-UIDL: 2585098143d69075ebeffafebb38d8d6 Hi Teresa, If that was John Shunk's message he was probably referring to the MidWest Historical and Genealogical Society in Wichita. They use the Skyways server and also post the USGW logo at the bottom of their page. However, I have never seen anything on the state page indicating that they are a part of KSGenWeb. is their URL if you wish to look at it. I believe the question may be hypothetical as I know of no one that points to these societies for their queries. If they do then as I said in the message to the committee, if they are part of USGW fine, if not, then a disclaimer should be made as these societies could post anything without being sanctioned by a SC. Don From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02228 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JFFFCl017234 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JFEHr12516; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:17 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:17 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 08:14:17 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c1cf58$91938380$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318214640.00a85e00@radix.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/203 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a06ef5da050528bd17d95465977acfc1 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 >>In general, I think that "Main page" has been defined as the home page of each county, parish, etc. Where is this definition? If I want to point a CC to it where is it? >>For a couple of reasons, I don't think we should go the route of adding a recommendation that the logo be placed up top. We say 'prominently displayed near the top' and it works for us. >>I don't know of any specific Gen Socs that have adopted USGW pages I do. We have at least one in Illinois and I've run across them in other states. >>Again, we are not _requiring_ people to add disclaimers; it is a recommendation only at this point. Any LC who doesn't wish to add one doesn't have to. I don't see a compelling need to make it a requirement; what do you all think? I think it might be one of the strong suggestions rather than a requirement. I have several messages boards but I don't feel I have control of them. It's a token. CCs need to understand that neither Ancestry or Rootsweb is USGenWeb. I think the perception that Rootsweb is somehow part of USGenWeb is widespread. Another problem is the Ancestry boards are gatewayed [without asking permission] to the county mailing lists. It is my understanding that USGenWeb doesn't actually control the mailing lists either -- and CCs need to be aware of that. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02220 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JFF9Cl017217 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JFEGW12449; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:16 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:16 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 08:14:16 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee,weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c1cf58$90c8e080$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C96AD69.A58205A8@sampubco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <9R8bpD.A.QCD.IX1l8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/202 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c420623a43b5ecd8a446afe33af735a7 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 >>It's the layout copyright issue that we need to avoid like crazy. What is this? I've never heard of it. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02136 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JFEvCl017171 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JFE6p12287; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:14:06 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 08:14:06 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] GuidelinesCommittee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c1cf58$88d97970$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C96EBBD.5669BAE9@sampubco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/201 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 14008bb7da629cdd430a591e0288a5c9 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 You can move the offending posting but it isn't really deleted. I don't know if someone from Rootsweb comes along and decides if it should be deleted or not. They have also deleted posts that they find offensive, possibly using a search engine that checks for certain words since at least one was not offensive in context. ILGenWeb discourages the search for living persons. Attorneys have suggested legal liability might accrue if the search is something other than genealogical like a stalker or that ilk. Rootsweb/Ancestry does not discourage such searches. I'm sure there are other issues. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09259 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JGI8Cl025827 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JGHF624150; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:17:15 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:17:15 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Tue Mar 19 09:17:15 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <171.a888cb2.29c8be87@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:17:11 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] GuidelinesCommittee, weekly report... Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/204 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 37832ce332f377b1679b550a2598e972 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 "However, I do think is appropriate to _recommend_ that the logo be prominent and visible when a person first goes to the page (for example from the link at the state page), and if the group agrees with this I will add it to the working document." I do feel that if you are hosting a page for USGenWeb it should be obvious on the first page that the visitor sees that it is a USGenWeb page. (Not tiny print at the bottom) Either we are part of USGenWeb and proud of it or we don't host a page. QUERY BOARDS I have Johnson County, Indiana and Bartholomew County, Indiana and Unknown County. The query boards are through what used to be GenConnect and is now Rootsweb and Ancestry. I have control (administrator) over the boards. I move, delete and can edit the headings. (I don't let people use the boards to find live people either. There are other sources for that.) I maintain the Johnson County mailing list, but do not gateway the query board through my mailing list. The Bartholomew County mailing list is maintained by another genealogist who is doing a wonderful job and she does gateway from the board through the mailing list. The users of the Bartholomew County mailing list like that. So I didn't change it. Rootsweb and Ancestry haven't done anything to limit my access to the query boards or my mailing list and I've been using them since I started with INGenWeb. Just wanted to say no complaints here on their query pages. > Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- > INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm > INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm > INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm > Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html > Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html > From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29525 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JJN5Cl020103 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JJLZo02258; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:21:35 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:21:35 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 12:21:35 2002 Message-ID: <3C978FBC.1F1EA2B4@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:21:32 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] GuidelinesCommittee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <000001c1cf58$88d97970$0100a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/205 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c43650577168f6889b29f4622d4d17cb Maybe I can clarify this more. Offensive posts are deleted immediately upon detection by the board- admin. No one can see them except the board-admin and RW staff because they are inside "Recycle Bin" which is never purged unless there's an absolute offensive one then RW can remove from the system. As for living persons, it is NOT encouraged by RW, rather they be deleted. The option is up to the board-admin to determine the validity and question of the post. I've deleted just about every such queries every time they show up. I can't say for Genforum! David Samuelsen Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > You can move the offending posting but it isn't really deleted. I don't > know if someone from Rootsweb comes along and decides if it should be > deleted or not. They have also deleted posts that they find offensive, > possibly using a search engine that checks for certain words since at > least one was not offensive in context. > > ILGenWeb discourages the search for living persons. Attorneys have > suggested legal liability might accrue if the search is something other > than genealogical like a stalker or that ilk. Rootsweb/Ancestry does not > discourage such searches. I'm sure there are other issues. > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ > Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29681 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JJNoCl020280 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JJMLv03868; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:22:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:22:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 12:22:21 2002 Message-ID: <3C978FEA.561F4574@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:22:18 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee,weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <000301c1cf58$90c8e080$0100a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3o0IM.A.C8.t_4l8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/206 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 6fd75514231342fe4efbab1b052987b9 you design your pages, don't you? That's YOUR copyright. David Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > >>It's the layout copyright issue that we need to avoid like crazy. > > What is this? I've never heard of it. > > Cheryl Rothwell From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00311 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JJV2Cl021121 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JJTeH22789; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:29:40 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:29:40 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 12:29:39 2002 Message-ID: <3C9791A1.5760561B@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:29:37 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <000401c1cf58$91938380$0100a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/207 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e02097e0925a5bfe3bd2f37fb94cc422 Has to clear up on your points. 1. perception that RW is part of USGenWeb. It is vice versa, too. 2. Ancestry boards are gatewayed ONLY with permission of the mailing list owners. Not all county boards are gatewayed. NY - 19 out of 62 are. IL - 32 out of 102 are. More common is Surnames gatewayed to mailing lists. As for logo, I have a combination of state and national logo in one jpg with links within it. David Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > >>In general, I think that "Main page" has been defined as the home page > of > each county, parish, etc. > > Where is this definition? If I want to point a CC to it where is it? > > >>For a couple of reasons, I don't think we should go the route of > adding a > recommendation that the logo be placed up top. > > We say 'prominently displayed near the top' and it works for us. > > >>I don't know of any specific Gen Socs that have adopted USGW pages > > I do. We have at least one in Illinois and I've run across them in other > states. > > >>Again, we are not _requiring_ people to add disclaimers; it is a > recommendation only at this point. Any LC who doesn't wish to add one > doesn't have to. I don't see a compelling need to make it a > requirement; > what do you all think? > > I think it might be one of the strong suggestions rather than a > requirement. I have several messages boards but I don't feel I have > control of them. It's a token. CCs need to understand that neither > Ancestry or Rootsweb is USGenWeb. I think the perception that Rootsweb > is somehow part of USGenWeb is widespread. > > Another problem is the Ancestry boards are gatewayed [without asking > permission] to the county mailing lists. It is my understanding that > USGenWeb doesn't actually control the mailing lists either -- and CCs > need to be aware of that. > > Cheryl Rothwell From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00426 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JJWACl021297 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JJV2f27480; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:31:02 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:31:02 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 12:31:02 2002 Message-ID: <3C9791F4.1A559B55@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:31:00 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: Guidelines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Logos and Banners Overkill Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/208 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 598581277c4bbefca48ae54a64ede764 Speaking of logos, I've came across some county sites that are overloaded. Some have too many banner links to other sites, taking long time to download, if banners are controlled from other sites. David From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03800 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JK3rCl025465 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JK2Tc11495; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:02:29 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:02:29 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Tue Mar 19 13:02:28 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020319145918.00a86250@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:59:56 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logos and Banners Overkill In-Reply-To: <3C9791F4.1A559B55@sampubco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/209 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e5c9df00b2b2ff17de4d7302d462a294 But if these banners are relevant to the site, and they aren't soliciting money, we can't do anything about that. Morgan At 12:31 PM 3/19/02 -0700, you wrote: >Speaking of logos, > >I've came across some county sites that are overloaded. > >Some have too many banner links to other sites, taking long time >to download, if banners are controlled from other sites. > >David From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA07634 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JKd6Cl000164 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JKc9M11469; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:38:09 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:38:09 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Tue Mar 19 13:38:09 2002 Message-ID: <002601c1cf85$f6f0f0f0$65bc41d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: References: <3C9791F4.1A559B55@sampubco.com> Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logos and Banners Overkill Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:38:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/210 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d3bdb807bc77489a569b5ca90d12b058 Don't think there is much we can do about that. Some come as requirements for webspace, counters, guestbooks, that sort of thing. And if we do draw the line - where would it be? Do we start with only so many? Or do we look at how long they take to load? Sounds almost like a Big Brother tactic to me. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" > Speaking of logos, > > I've came across some county sites that are overloaded. > > Some have too many banner links to other sites, taking long time > to download, if banners are controlled from other sites. > > David From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 18:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12611 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2JLPKCl006542 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2JLOLG04043; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:24:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:24:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 14:24:20 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:23:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c1cf8c$50369510$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C9791A1.5760561B@sampubco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Various Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/211 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 55f63af9c52f22d1af1b2fb4957c7c94 I'm replying to David's messages off list since I think we are ranging off the main topic. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 19:31:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00808 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0BrCl028803 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0AoB05486; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:10:50 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:10:50 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 17:10:49 2002 Message-ID: <3C97D38D.BABA0C7F@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:10:53 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logos and Banners Overkill References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020319145918.00a86250@mail.usroots.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/212 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: bec17243d7a22c52439e42becdc0d763 I'm not referring to server's requirements. I'm referring to the OFFSITE banners that are overloaded. David Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > > But if these banners are relevant to the site, and they aren't soliciting > money, we can't do anything about that. > > Morgan > > At 12:31 PM 3/19/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Speaking of logos, > > > >I've came across some county sites that are overloaded. > > > >Some have too many banner links to other sites, taking long time > >to download, if banners are controlled from other sites. > > > >David From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 19:31:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00833 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0C3Cl028833 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0B9P05898; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:11:09 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:11:09 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Tue Mar 19 17:11:09 2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:19:03 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319190825.00a87800@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up--Queries Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/213 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 2077a8688e8a7cddb846f0ae60c19783 Hi everyone, First let me apologize; I've been a little busy and I'm just now catching up with all the posts on the queries and logos. All the points you''ve made are good ones and the information provided on how the various query systems work is useful to know. But we are wandering a bit from the topic at hand. As for queries, in reading back over the responses, I see no stated opposition to the basic proposal on queries as posted in the working document: "5. Queries: Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for researchers to submit queries. You may choose to administrate a query page or message board system or you may choose to provide a link to an existing message board related to your region. You are free to choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." I'd like to change the wording to "view and submit" queries, just to cover that base. Please let me know if there is any objection to this. The recommendation that follows also does not seem to have opposition, although perhaps it could stand a bit of clarification: "If you choose to link to a non-USGenWeb message board system, it is recommended that you add a brief disclaimer noting that USGenWeb is not affiliated with these outside services. A notice that visitors may use their "back" button to return to your page is also recommended." Please note that this is a recommendation to the LCs. They are not required to add a disclaimer. But someone has pointed out to me that even a query system maintained by hand by a LC on their own web-space is not necessarily a "USGenWeb message board system". USGenWeb does not technically have its own system and all queries submitted end up under the control of someone who may not stay a member of USGenWeb forever. So perhaps we should consider rewording this in some way that would differentiate LC-managed systems from commercial systems or from systems where the LC does not have ultimate authority over disposition of the queries. Perhaps something along the lines of "If you choose to use a query system that is managed by someone other than yourself, such as a commercial company, its is recommended that..." Yes, I realize there is a grey area for the Ancestry boards, where some LCs may act as board managers on behalf of Ancestry, but again, this is a recommendation, not a rule. Comments? -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 06:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24274 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 01:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2J6esCl028109 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 01:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2J6dxI07433; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:39:59 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:39:59 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Mon Mar 18 23:39:58 2002 Message-ID: <200203182236300290.020A4A8E@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318065835.00a7d930@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318065835.00a7d930@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:36:30 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2J6dwq07410 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/199 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c0fc6d21904d3f8ab8c0bceb96ff1647 Query Express/Surname Helper is under the control of the LC. I use this for queries on 3 of my 4 county pages (KS uses another system). While I have links to the "former" GenConnect boards on my counties, my query system of choice is Query Express. And actually, I may look into using Query Express for my KS county too. If we administer the former GenConnect Boards (now Ancestry), don't we have a modicum of control over them? Aren't we able to delete queries, if necessary? Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/18/02 at 7:06 AM merope wrote: > >>Are Query Express/Surname Helper "non-USGenWeb" systems? > >IMO, any system that does not allow the LC control over the queries is >"outside" USGenWeb. This would include places like Genforum and the >Ancestry message boards. I'm not familiar with Query Express/Surname >Helper but if it works like the old GenConnect boards in that the queries >are not under the control of the LC then they would fit under this. Same >with a local genealogical society if the queries submitted via the webpage >pass out of the control of the LC. From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 06:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA29413 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 02:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2J7gfCl003572 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 02:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2J7fkU25409; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:41:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:41:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 00:41:45 2002 Message-ID: <3C96EBBD.5669BAE9@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:41:49 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] GuidelinesCommittee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318065835.00a7d930@radix.net> <200203182236300290.020A4A8E@smtp.pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/200 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f9bc989ee0880d46b30fa819a2f6b6b8 They are called Rotosweb more than Ancestry. Control is on Rootsweb side. Inappropriate queries can be deleted or moved to another board quite easily. Spams are dealt with globally by Rootsweb staff themselves once reported. Spammers are blocked by software design by Rootsweb staff themselves. What is allowed: editing of subject line and surname box. Some CCs have quite good "Links and Announcements" section. (Still trying to get the programmers to change the name "Links and Announcements") And within this particular system, photo attachments are allowed but can not be gatewayed to mailing lists. Some boards are gatewayed and not others. This much I know because I work them. The current debate is getting the default moved to local board instead of "all" boards. David Samuelsen DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > Query Express/Surname Helper is under the control of the LC. I use this for queries on 3 of my 4 county pages (KS uses another system). While I have links to the "former" GenConnect boards on my counties, my query system of choice is Query Express. And actually, I may look into using Query Express for my KS county too. > > If we administer the former GenConnect Boards (now Ancestry), don't we have a modicum of control over them? Aren't we able to delete queries, if necessary? > > Alice A > USGenWeb Project CC for > > Marshall Co., KS > Geauga Co., OH > Seneca Co., OH > Clark Co., WA > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/18/02 at 7:06 AM merope wrote: > > > > >>Are Query Express/Surname Helper "non-USGenWeb" systems? > > > >IMO, any system that does not allow the LC control over the queries is > >"outside" USGenWeb. This would include places like Genforum and the > >Ancestry message boards. I'm not familiar with Query Express/Surname > >Helper but if it works like the old GenConnect boards in that the queries > >are not under the control of the LC then they would fit under this. Same > >with a local genealogical society if the queries submitted via the webpage > >pass out of the control of the LC. From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 06:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA06893 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2J2paCl005769 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2J2ofr26325; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:50:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:50:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 18 19:50:40 2002 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:58:41 -0500 From: merope Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-reply-to: <001401c1ce93$24a08ae0$0100a8c0@Dell> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318214640.00a85e00@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Resent-Message-ID: <81lcuD.A.ObG.Beql8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/197 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 5c3362b9ce44c1d1572ef6f3c4ee977c At 10:39 AM 3/18/02 -0500, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: >Now that I am home and perhaps thinking more clearly... > >Regarding the link requirement on the main page: >We are having some cute CCs who make a main page with all the logos, >then an enter button, then their real main page with no logos... They >meet the letter of the requirements. Maybe we need to define 'main >page.' We also have a 'prominently displayed near the top' and maybe we >need to define these terms. In general, I think that "Main page" has been defined as the home page of each county, parish, etc. It is the page linked to by the state page and usually the first page a visitor sees. In the bylaws the requirement to have a logo states only that it should be prominently displayed, but does not go beyond that. For a couple of reasons, I don't think we should go the route of adding a recommendation that the logo be placed up top. 1) Because this particular issue is a bylaws item, I don't think we should go beyond the requirements in the bylaws as far as adding a new requirement for logo placement. 2) Realize that logo placement gets into that fuzzy subjective realm of personal creativity and individual design, so any requirement that logos be up top will be met with stiff opposition. Plus you will end up with someone in one state deciding that one size logo is too small and someone in another state deciding the same size is OK. Plus people have different monitor sizes and resolutions and one display may show the logo on the first screen while another cuts it off. However, I do think is appropriate to _recommend_ that the logo be prominent and visible when a person first goes to the page (for example from the link at the state page), and if the group agrees with this I will add it to the working document. >Regarding the state mailing lists: > >Maybe we need a requirement that each state have such a mailing list? Or >is that outside our realm? We will discuss this when we work on the SC guidelines. [snip] > >>In the example given of the society maintaining a query system in a >county, I believe that would depend on the status of the society. If it >is a part of USGW and has the logos, links and meets other requirements >of a LC then I would think their query system would comply and be >considered part of USGW. > >I think we have to be careful here. Are you saying if the local society >was a voting member of the state GenWeb? I don't know of any specific Gen Socs that have adopted USGW pages, but again, I think a good broad definition of "any site where the online queries are not under the final control of the Local Coordinator" would cover any instances where USGW pages provide query to Gen Socs, who then keep control of the queries. Again, we are not _requiring_ people to add disclaimers; it is a recommendation only at this point. Any LC who doesn't wish to add one doesn't have to. I don't see a compelling need to make it a requirement; what do you all think? -Teresa >Cheryl From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 06:06:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA09047 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2J3GkCl008500 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2J3FqZ28758; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:15:52 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:15:52 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Mon Mar 18 20:15:51 2002 Message-ID: <3C96AD69.A58205A8@sampubco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:15:53 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee,weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318214640.00a85e00@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/198 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 5b3b6bf5158d2dbb434bed91961a554f The logo/link should be on the main page of each locality. I don't care WHERE on THAT page. It's the layout copyright issue that we need to avoid like crazy. David merope wrote: > > At 10:39 AM 3/18/02 -0500, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > >Now that I am home and perhaps thinking more clearly... > > > >Regarding the link requirement on the main page: > >We are having some cute CCs who make a main page with all the logos, > >then an enter button, then their real main page with no logos... They > >meet the letter of the requirements. Maybe we need to define 'main > >page.' We also have a 'prominently displayed near the top' and maybe we > >need to define these terms. > > In general, I think that "Main page" has been defined as the home page of > each county, parish, etc. It is the page linked to by the state page and > usually the first page a visitor sees. In the bylaws the requirement to > have a logo states only that it should be prominently displayed, but does > not go beyond that. > > For a couple of reasons, I don't think we should go the route of adding a > recommendation that the logo be placed up top. 1) Because this particular > issue is a bylaws item, I don't think we should go beyond the requirements > in the bylaws as far as adding a new requirement for logo placement. 2) > Realize that logo placement gets into that fuzzy subjective realm of > personal creativity and individual design, so any requirement that logos be > up top will be met with stiff opposition. Plus you will end up with > someone in one state deciding that one size logo is too small and someone > in another state deciding the same size is OK. Plus people have different > monitor sizes and resolutions and one display may show the logo on the > first screen while another cuts it off. > > However, I do think is appropriate to _recommend_ that the logo be > prominent and visible when a person first goes to the page (for example > from the link at the state page), and if the group agrees with this I will > add it to the working document. > > >Regarding the state mailing lists: > > > >Maybe we need a requirement that each state have such a mailing list? Or > >is that outside our realm? > > We will discuss this when we work on the SC guidelines. > > [snip] > > > >>In the example given of the society maintaining a query system in a > >county, I believe that would depend on the status of the society. If it > >is a part of USGW and has the logos, links and meets other requirements > >of a LC then I would think their query system would comply and be > >considered part of USGW. > > > >I think we have to be careful here. Are you saying if the local society > >was a voting member of the state GenWeb? > > I don't know of any specific Gen Socs that have adopted USGW pages, but > again, I think a good broad definition of "any site where the online > queries are not under the final control of the Local Coordinator" would > cover any instances where USGW pages provide query to Gen Socs, who then > keep control of the queries. > > Again, we are not _requiring_ people to add disclaimers; it is a > recommendation only at this point. Any LC who doesn't wish to add one > doesn't have to. I don't see a compelling need to make it a requirement; > what do you all think? > > -Teresa > > >Cheryl From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 18:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25583 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IFfmCl008224 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2IFew620456; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:40:58 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:40:58 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Mon Mar 18 08:40:58 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c1ce93$24a08ae0$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/195 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d77f2c653a249bdec11f80be28ee13e2 Now that I am home and perhaps thinking more clearly... Regarding the link requirement on the main page: We are having some cute CCs who make a main page with all the logos, then an enter button, then their real main page with no logos... They meet the letter of the requirements. Maybe we need to define 'main page.' We also have a 'prominently displayed near the top' and maybe we need to define these terms. Regarding the state mailing lists: Maybe we need a requirement that each state have such a mailing list? Or is that outside our realm? >>I believe your rational is correct. If the LC cannot post to, delete from and/or edit the queries the system is not under the control of the LC and therefore could lead to an embarrassment to USGW because of what one would find posted there. Definitely agree. >>In the example given of the society maintaining a query system in a county, I believe that would depend on the status of the society. If it is a part of USGW and has the logos, links and meets other requirements of a LC then I would think their query system would comply and be considered part of USGW. I think we have to be careful here. Are you saying if the local society was a voting member of the state GenWeb? Cheryl From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 18:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25599 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IFfpCl008233 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2IFf3720634; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:41:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:41:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Mon Mar 18 08:41:03 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c1ce93$2a47afa0$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318071830.00a85a50@radix.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/196 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 485ce6ad4dd2e166d244da878f0903c9 When we discuss this I'd like to know how many states have a read only list and if they have another interactive list. I could understand a read only announcement list if they had another chat list. Cheryl -----Original Message----- From: merope [mailto:merope@Radix.Net] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:19 AM To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 This is another comment submitted by a member. Lets hold off on addressing this one until we are working on the SC guidelines. -Teresa >To: >Subject: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week >ending >3/16/2002 >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:39:15 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > >Teresa, I wonder if you could address the issue of a CCs right to >interact with other CCs via this required state list. I think that the >creation of a read-only state mail list should be declared as Not >democratic and contrary to the idea of the free flowing & sharing of >informatiion so much toted at the usgenweb project. It is ...and feels >like....censorship and oppression...not good for a all volunteer org. > From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 06:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19356 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2I0j0Cl014825 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2I0hfd13824; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:43:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:43:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Sun Mar 17 17:43:41 2002 Message-ID: <01d001c1ce15$f1d1fb30$61b941d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020317193438.00a7ea60@radix.net> Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:43:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <1IaW5.A.vXD.9gTl8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/190 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 8cb6520b83ac06ff548b3b8f9d997568 ----- Original Message ----- From: "merope" The consensus > thus far is to retain the requirement that LCs must address queries but to > revise to explicitly allow them to use message boards or whatever system > suits them. This is merely codifying what has been practice for years. *********REPLY SEPARATOR****************************** Have to agree here. We need to address all the queries in some way. Most LC's I believe like the boards - but I happen to really dislike them. I want the queries on the sites that I do. I really like keeping things in a central place. So it makes sense to leave that section basically as is. Jan cortez From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 07:16:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA05676 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IBwxCl013142 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2IBwDa16934; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:58:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:58:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 18 04:58:10 2002 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:06:04 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318065835.00a7d930@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/191 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 638d38f656f3881d0b6fce6e18367fe2 The following is a comment submitted by a project member. I have inserted my comments below and would appreciate yours as well. -Teresa >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:27:20 -0600 >To: merope@radix.net >Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week > ending 3/16/2002 > >12:10 PM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote: > >On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed > >revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and > >will be updated as needed. > > > >Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at >merope@radix.net > > > >Hi Teresa, > >Thanks for informing us about the work of the Guidelines Committee. > >Please forward these comments to the Committee for their consideration -- > >1. The suggested requirement that Local Coordinators provide a link on >their home page to the main USGenWeb Project page is a new requirement, >correct? I don't recall hearing anyone make suggestions along this line >prior to this report, so I am curious as to whether this is something that >most Project members want. > >When I was gathering sample pages for the service mark application, I was >surprised to discover how many main Local pages do not even meet the logo >requirement. There are even a greater number that have a logo without a >link. > >So if compliance with a logo requirement is not currently being attained, >how will Local Coordinators react to an additional link requirement? Unfortunately, it will not be able to please anyone and it is not really possible for any of us to predict how the LCs will respond to a new requirement. IMO, this addition is of neglible impact and I'm not overly worried that it will have a negative impact on the membership or that many will complain. >2. Probably not important, but I couldn't figure out what the contradiction >referred to by the following is -- > >State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join > >a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines > >for State Coordinators. >3. Regarding disclaimers that USGenWeb is not affiliated with non-USGenWeb >message systems, I'm not sure the definition of "non-USGenWeb" is entirely >clear. For example, is a query system maintained by the local genealogy >society in the county which I coordinate a "non-USGenWeb" system? Would I >need a public disclaimer that USGenWeb is not affiliated with the local >genealogy society? > >Are Query Express/Surname Helper "non-USGenWeb" systems? IMO, any system that does not allow the LC control over the queries is "outside" USGenWeb. This would include places like Genforum and the Ancestry message boards. I'm not familiar with Query Express/Surname Helper but if it works like the old GenConnect boards in that the queries are not under the control of the LC then they would fit under this. Same with a local genealogical society if the queries submitted via the webpage pass out of the control of the LC. We should discuss this and come up with a good definition. >4. In item 5, someone might want to clean up the grammar in "You is free to >choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." This was bad editing on my part; I'll clean up the mistake shortly >Thanks for taking these items into consideration. -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 07:34:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA06530 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2ICCKCl014366 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2ICBX910281; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:11:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:11:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Mon Mar 18 05:11:31 2002 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:19:25 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318071830.00a85a50@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/192 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4ef1d0c07ce19c317f41c6c3e5f61269 This is another comment submitted by a member. Lets hold off on addressing this one until we are working on the SC guidelines. -Teresa >To: >Subject: Re: [DBS] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending >3/16/2002 >Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:39:15 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > >Teresa, I wonder if you could address the issue of a CCs right to interact >with other CCs via this required state list. I think that the creation of a >read-only state mail list should be declared as Not democratic and contrary >to the idea of the free flowing & sharing of informatiion so much toted at >the usgenweb project. It is ...and feels like....censorship and >oppression...not good for a all volunteer org. > From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 18:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA13424 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2IDgJCl022926 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2IDfXk03075; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:41:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:41:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Mon Mar 18 06:41:33 2002 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 07:45:43 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318065835.00a7d930@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2IDfXq03013 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/194 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0554d8b3723ed9ce7a931c2fba8915f3 At 06:06 AM 03/18/2002, you wrote: > >The following is a comment submitted by a project member. I have inserted >my comments below and would appreciate yours as well. > >-Teresa > > >>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:27:20 -0600 >>To: merope@radix.net >>Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week >> ending 3/16/2002 >> >>12:10 PM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote: >> >On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed >> >revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcgui de.txt and >> >will be updated as needed. >> > >> >Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at >>merope@radix.net >> > >> >>Hi Teresa, >> >>Thanks for informing us about the work of the Guidelines Committee. >> >>Please forward these comments to the Committee for their consideration -- >> >>1. The suggested requirement that Local Coordinators provide a link on >>their home page to the main USGenWeb Project page is a new requirement, >>correct? I don't recall hearing anyone make suggestions along this line >>prior to this report, so I am curious as to whether this is something that >>most Project members want. >> >>When I was gathering sample pages for the service mark application, I was >>surprised to discover how many main Local pages do not even meet the logo >>requirement. There are even a greater number that have a logo without a >>link. >> >>So if compliance with a logo requirement is not currently being attained, >>how will Local Coordinators react to an additional link requirement? > > >Unfortunately, it will not be able to please anyone and it is not really >possible for any of us to predict how the LCs will respond to a new >requirement. IMO, this addition is of neglible impact and I'm not overly >worried that it will have a negative impact on the membership or that many >will complain. I agree the impact would be minor. I would hope all LCs would be considerate enough of their researchers to point them to the home page of the USGW. If their page doesn't have the logo they are violation of the present guidelines and this should be corrected by their SC. > > >>2. Probably not important, but I couldn't figure out what the contradiction >>referred to by the following is -- >> >State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join >> >a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines >> >for State Coordinators. Teresa, the contradiction is in the way the sentence was written. SCs are required to maintain a state mail list and have all LCs subscribed. The CC previous guidelines indicated that the State might "NOT" have a mail list and if that were so they should contact their SC. We were going to remove the part of the CC requirement that stated ["If your state of interest does not have a mail list you can request more information from the state coordinator.'] This would clarify that the state WOULD maintain a mail list and all CCs would be subscribed. > >>3. Regarding disclaimers that USGenWeb is not affiliated with non-USGenWeb >>message systems, I'm not sure the definition of "non-USGenWeb" is entirely >>clear. For example, is a query system maintained by the local genealogy >>society in the county which I coordinate a "non-USGenWeb" system? Would I >>need a public disclaimer that USGenWeb is not affiliated with the local >>genealogy society? >> >>Are Query Express/Surname Helper "non-USGenWeb" systems? > >IMO, any system that does not allow the LC control over the queries is >"outside" USGenWeb. This would include places like Genforum and the >Ancestry message boards. I'm not familiar with Query Express/Surname >Helper but if it works like the old GenConnect boards in that the queries >are not under the control of the LC then they would fit under this. Same >with a local genealogical society if the queries submitted via the webpage >pass out of the control of the LC. > >We should discuss this and come up with a good definition. I believe your rational is correct. If the LC cannot post to, delete from and/or edit the queries the system is not under the control of the LC and therefore could lead to an embarrassment to USGW because of what one would find posted there. In the example given of the society maintaining a query system in a county, I believe that would depend on the status of the society. If it is a part of USGW and has the logos, links and meets other requirements of a LC then I would think their query system would comply and be considered part of USGW. > >>4. In item 5, someone might want to clean up the grammar in "You is free to >>choose the system(s) which works best for their project web site." > >This was bad editing on my part; I'll clean up the mistake shortly > >>Thanks for taking these items into consideration. > >-Teresa >merope@radix.net > From ???@??? Sun Mar 17 17:36:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18156 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HHjSCl005396 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2HHidr31371; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:44:39 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:44:39 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Sun Mar 17 10:44:38 2002 Message-ID: <3C94D60E.F5523509@sampubco.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:44:47 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/188 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: a890808cb4c15009df87b3093390899a Title: decided. Queries: not retained, CHANGED the requirement, but not decided in consensus yet from the replies I have seen. All other points have not been decided in consensus yet. David merope wrote: > > Permission to forward is granted > > GUIDELINES COMMITTEE WEEKLY REPORT, for the week ending March 16 2002 > > === > > On March 10, Holly Timm announced the formation of the Guidelines > Committee. Teresa Lindquist called the meeting to order on March > 11. These are the 10 committee members and a bit about each one: > > Teresa Lindquist (Chair): with USGW since August 1996, coordinator for two > Kansas counties and a co-coordinator on another; currently serve as the > Representative At Large on the Advisory Board; publisher of the Daily Board > Show; formerly served on the Election Study Committee and on the > predecessor to this committee, the Guidelines "starter" committee. > > Alice Allen: CC for 4 counties--1 in KS, 2 in OH, 1 in WA > > Jan Cortez: WI Census Project; CC for NY, WI, MI, IA,VT,PA, and OH. > > Morgan Johnson: county coordinator for two parishes in Louisiana and one > county in Illinois since 1996. > > Rich Howland: [did not respond to roll call] > > William David Samuelson: Baker and Grant County, Oregon > > Don Tharp: CC for three Kansas counties and have been with the project > since 1996. > > Cheryl Parker: hosts 3 counties in Indiana, one being the Unknown County > page; also hosts 2 county biography pages in Indiana > > Cheryl Rothwell: CC for Logan County, IL > > Lorraine Newsome: CC in Ohio, SD, AR, MI, WI, NY (also ASC), and IL (also > ASC); on the EC as a rep for the NE/NC Region > > --- > > The Chair announces that the order of discussion will be to proceed through > the current guidelines for Local Coordinators, State Coordinators and > Special Projects and recommend revisions. Then additions to the guidelines > will be discussed. The Chair also announces that a weekly report will be > filed to the Project outlining progress. > > --- > > First topic opened for discussion on March 11 is the title of the revised > guidelines. After some discussion, the title "Guidelines for Local > Coordinators" was selected on March 14. This title is recommended both > because the term "Local Coordinators" is used throughout the bylaws, and > because it covers a wider base of volunteers than the more commonly used > "County Coordinators". > > --- > > Second topic opened for discussion is the "requirements for Local > Coordinators". This topic was opened for discussion on March 13. There > are currently 2 requirements for Local Coordinators: 1. All websites shall > include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home > page. 2. Solicitation of funds for personal gain is inappropriate. This is > defined as the direct appeal on the home page of any of the websites > comprising The USGenWeb Project for funding to do research, to pay for > server space, to do look-ups, etc. These cannot be changed by the > Committee, but will be listed for recommendation for inclusion in updated > guidelines. > > In the current Guidelines there are three other requirements: 1. > requirement to join the state mail list; 2. requirement to have a query > page; and 3. requirement to link to the county selection list for their state. > > State Mail List: It was noted that the current requirement for CCs to join > a state mailing list contradicts a requirement in the current guidelines > for State Coordinators. It is suggested that the requirement to join a > state mailing list be retained and the SC guidelines updated to match that > requirement. It is also suggested that a notice informing the volunteers > of a mandatory subscription to USGENWEB-NATL-L, the Election Committee's > announcement list, should be included in the guidelines. > > Queries: It is the decision of the group to retain an amended query > requirement. Local Coordinators will be required to provide a mechanism by > which visitors to their pages can submit and view queries, but the specific > method shall be left up to their discretion. It is also suggested that LCs > add disclaimers to their sites when they are linking to outside query > resources and that they provide instruction on how visitors may return to > their pages after visiting them. > > --- > > On March 16, Teresa Lindquist posts a "working document" of proposed > revisions. It is available at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt and > will be updated as needed. > > Any comments on this report may be sent to Teresa Lindquist at merope@radix.net > > === > > -Teresa Lindquist > Chair, Guidelines Committee > Representative At Large, USGenWeb Project > merope@radix.net From ???@??? Mon Mar 18 06:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18265 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2I0VcCl013527 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2I0UXo19810; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:30:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:30:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Sun Mar 17 17:30:32 2002 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:38:31 -0500 From: merope Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-reply-to: <3C94D60E.F5523509@sampubco.com> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317193438.00a7ea60@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020317120829.00a7bab0@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/189 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: ca7eda29022523ab9d0fb924dcd6de9f At 10:44 AM 3/17/02 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >Queries: not retained, CHANGED the requirement, but not decided in >consensus yet from the replies I have seen. I have counted 6 responses (from 10 possible) indicating approval for the suggestion as listed in the report. This is a majority. The consensus thus far is to retain the requirement that LCs must address queries but to revise to explicitly allow them to use message boards or whatever system suits them. This is merely codifying what has been practice for years. However, I do not consider this to be a final vote by any means. I would prefer to hold off on final voting until we have the document hashed out. That way we can avoid approving things that are in conflict and things that may not occur to us at this time. >All other points have not been decided in consensus yet. And it is not stated that they were. -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:16:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04768 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0viCl004306 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0uka09361; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:56:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:56:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 17:56:45 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c1cfaa$01574110$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319193437.00a8b750@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: <05wCUB.A.BSC.O59l8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/217 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 98157bb63860970ad385757f1a75aad2 >>I'm sorry, "definition" is probably too strong a word. It is more of a traditional usage. Darn! I could have used a firm definition. :-/ Cheryl From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:16:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05156 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K13VCl004928 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K12Za04653; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:02:35 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:02:35 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Tue Mar 19 18:02:35 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020319200240.02283ea8@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:03:17 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logos and Banners Overkill In-Reply-To: <3C97D38D.BABA0C7F@sampubco.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020319145918.00a86250@mail.usroots.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/219 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b878e3c079b31c54177273a4beec4107 I know that's what you're talking about. I'm saying that we can't tell them they can't have them on their pages. Morgan At 05:10 PM 3/19/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I'm not referring to server's requirements. I'm referring to the >OFFSITE banners that are overloaded. > >David > >Morgan Edward Johnson wrote: > > > > But if these banners are relevant to the site, and they aren't soliciting > > money, we can't do anything about that. > > > > Morgan > > > > At 12:31 PM 3/19/02 -0700, you wrote: > > >Speaking of logos, > > > > > >I've came across some county sites that are overloaded. > > > > > >Some have too many banner links to other sites, taking long time > > >to download, if banners are controlled from other sites. > > > > > >David From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:16:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05455 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K185Cl005471 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K176d15896; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:07:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:07:06 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Tue Mar 19 18:07:06 2002 Message-ID: <014901c1cfab$89cac890$43b941d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:06:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/220 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 95b211d8d256cede7c30213b1fed4628 ----- Original Message ----- From: "merope" Lets clarify where we are on the links discussion. Comments? -Teresa ************REPLY SEPARATOR***************************** I think its fine and have no objection to a link to USGW. In fact I think most of my counties do. Personally I think that is a given. Beyond asking for specific logos of the Project and a link back to the National Page - I think we are asking for trouble if we intrude on how the LC's do the layout of their pages. Jan From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 00:46:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27542 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K5YSCl004392 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K5XaX08292; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:33:36 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:33:36 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Tue Mar 19 22:33:35 2002 Message-ID: <200203192131260240.029762A7@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:31:26 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2K5XZq08269 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/221 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4f29ea8ed2d826a0a2909dd860f595f8 I also don't see why LC's should object to having a link to the main USGW page. Not every researcher will have that URL ingrained in their mind like we do, so it would definitely be handy for them if they need to jump to another state for more research. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/19/02 at 7:33 PM merope wrote: > >A concern has been raised by a project member that the requirement to have >a link to USGW is a new requirement and LCs may object. This is true. It >is a new requirement and there are likely to be objections. However, to >me >a link back to the Project itself is not burdensome, it makes sense, and >it >is useful to visitors. I have not seen objection to making this a >requirement on this list; so if anyone does object now would be a good >time >to speak up. > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 00:46:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27550 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K5YcCl004397 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K5Xck08510; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:33:38 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:33:38 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Tue Mar 19 22:33:37 2002 Message-ID: <200203192131280110.029769CD@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319190825.00a87800@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319190825.00a87800@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:31:28 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up--Queries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2K5Xbq08470 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/222 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d384f6dba795a49500ec531236b6b3d4 I am agreeable with the wording in the Queries statement, including the "view & submit" part. I am also agreeable with the "disclaimer" for using other query systems that aren't controlable by the LC. I realize most researchers probably don't care where they leave a query, but for those who do, they should be made aware that the LC doesn't have much to say about what happens to it. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/19/02 at 7:19 PM merope wrote: > >As for queries, in reading back over the responses, I see no stated >opposition to the basic proposal on queries as posted in the working >document: > >"5. Queries: Each Local Coordinator is required to maintain a method for >researchers to submit queries. You may choose to administrate a query page >or message board system or you may choose to provide a link to an existing >message board related to your region. You are free to choose the system(s) >which works best for their project web site." > >I'd like to change the wording to "view and submit" queries, just to cover >that base. Please let me know if there is any objection to this. > >The recommendation that follows also does not seem to have opposition, >although perhaps it could stand a bit of clarification: > >"If you choose to link to a non-USGenWeb message board system, it is >recommended that you add a brief disclaimer noting that USGenWeb is not >affiliated with these outside services. A notice that visitors may use >their "back" button to return to your page is also >recommended." > >Please note that this is a recommendation to the LCs. They are not >required to add a disclaimer. But someone has pointed out to me that even >a query system maintained by hand by a LC on their own web-space is not >necessarily a "USGenWeb message board system". USGenWeb does not >technically have its own system and all queries submitted end up under the >control of someone who may not stay a member of USGenWeb forever. So >perhaps we should consider rewording this in some way that would >differentiate LC-managed systems from commercial systems or from systems >where the LC does not have ultimate authority over disposition of the >queries. > >Perhaps something along the lines of "If you choose to use a query system >that is managed by someone other than yourself, such as a commercial >company, its is recommended that..." > >Yes, I realize there is a grey area for the Ancestry boards, where some >LCs >may act as board managers on behalf of Ancestry, but again, this is a >recommendation, not a rule. > >Comments? > >-Teresa From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 02:01:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01991 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K6gvCl010427 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K6g3T17975; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:42:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:42:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Tue Mar 19 23:42:03 2002 Message-ID: <3C982F41.C6A7BEDF@sampubco.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:42:10 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> <200203192131260240.029762A7@smtp.pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/223 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 710f4c8e9d50478e53a290f0205cff6b at least in my state, it is required. David DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > I also don't see why LC's should object to having a link to the main USGW page. Not every researcher will have that URL ingrained in their mind like we do, so it would definitely be handy for them if they need to jump to another state for more research. > > Alice A > > USGenWeb Project CC for > > Marshall Co., KS > Geauga Co., OH > Seneca Co., OH > Clark Co., WA > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/19/02 at 7:33 PM merope wrote: > > > > > >A concern has been raised by a project member that the requirement to have > >a link to USGW is a new requirement and LCs may object. This is true. It > >is a new requirement and there are likely to be objections. However, to > >me > >a link back to the Project itself is not burdensome, it makes sense, and > >it > >is useful to visitors. I have not seen objection to making this a > >requirement on this list; so if anyone does object now would be a good > >time > >to speak up. > > > > From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 16:46:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26409 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KC5wCl008641 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2KC58P26754; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:05:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:05:08 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Wed Mar 20 05:05:05 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:04:50 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up--Queries Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/224 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 210ca52a934932dcebd8f6d5eb304e67 In a message dated 3/20/02 12:34:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, dcaallen@pacifier.com writes: > I am agreeable with the wording in the Queries statement, including the > "view & submit" part. I am also agreeable with the "disclaimer" for using > other query systems that aren't controlable by the LC. I realize most > researchers probably don't care where they leave a query, but for those who > do, they should be made aware that the LC doesn't have much to say about > what happens to it. > Me too, what she said! LOGOS and LINKS As far as a link to USGW, yes there should be one, whether it is with words or logo. As far as complaints go, there will always be complaints, but adding the words USGenWeb and making it a link, probably not even noticable on the page. The complainers will live. I don't care who I do volunteer work for (online or off), I still have to follow their guidelines to meet their objectives, otherwise I am worthless as a volunteer. The volunteer can be creative within the guidelines set and should expect to do so to meet the objectives of USGenWeb. Requiring a logo to be reasonbly prominent is not unreasonable and won't ruin their creativity. We aren't dictating design or layout, but are declaring what items must be included in the layout. The volunteer will need to incorporate these items into their design and layout using their own creativity. > Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- > INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm > INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm > INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm > Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html > Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 16:46:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05328 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KE0lCl020755 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2KDxld05175; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:59:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:59:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Wed Mar 20 06:59:46 2002 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:03:32 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links In-Reply-To: <014901c1cfab$89cac890$43b941d8@JanCortez> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/225 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 92776f92b6ec1e4331a48bf81131029b At 07:06 PM 03/19/2002, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "merope" > > > Lets clarify where we are on the links discussion. > Comments? > >-Teresa >************REPLY SEPARATOR***************************** Placing genealogical information on the Internet and pointing researchers to that information is, I assume, the main reason we spend our time building and maintaining web sites. We maintain pointers to other sites all the time to help researchers and a link to the USGWP should certainly be one of those. There the researcher will find links to visit all states, to visit the Archives, Tombstone, Census and other projects. The home page of the project is truly a valuable source of information for the researchers and that is why we do what we do, so let's all link to it. A link to the USGWP main page would not be a hardship for any LC of the project and it would best appear on the LCs main page. Don From ???@??? Wed Mar 20 16:46:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17337 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KFsrCl006798 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2KFrvU19712; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:53:57 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:53:57 -0700 X-Original-Sender: richpump@wf.net Wed Mar 20 08:53:56 2002 Message-ID: <3C98AFE0.4F474BF3@wf.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:50:56 -0600 From: ILGenWeb State Coordinator X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> <200203192131260240.029762A7@smtp.pacifier.com> <3C982F41.C6A7BEDF@sampubco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/226 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: accea8da41e58300039fca5ccc602a47 It is also a requirement in our state. I have been out of state for past ten days. Now however I am basically caught up on past e-mail. It looks as if I would be in agreement with what has gone on in my absence. I do think that we need to work on the guidelines in three different areas with each having two sections. 1. National level. ( Advisory Board, National Pages, and National Special Projects. Required. Suggested. 2. State Coordinators. Required. Suggested. 3. Local Coordinators. ( County Coordinators, Co-County Coordinators, Asst-County Coordinators, Township Coordinators, Town Coordinators, State Special Project Coordinators, and all other accepted Local Coordinators. Required. Suggested. A long with the Required sections, it will need to be decided the "What if Factor". The "What if Factor" is what if the, National level, State Coordinators, Local Coordinators, are found to not be in compliance? I believe that already we need to start splitting what is being discussed into one of these areas? Richard... W David Samuelsen wrote: > > at least in my state, it is required. > > David > > DC & Alice Allen wrote: > > > > I also don't see why LC's should object to having a link to the main USGW page. Not every researcher will have that URL ingrained in their mind like we do, so it would definitely be handy for them if they need to jump to another state for more research. > > > > Alice A > > > > USGenWeb Project CC for > > > > Marshall Co., KS > > Geauga Co., OH > > Seneca Co., OH > > Clark Co., WA > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > On 3/19/02 at 7:33 PM merope wrote: > > > > > > > > > >A concern has been raised by a project member that the requirement to have > > >a link to USGW is a new requirement and LCs may object. This is true. It > > >is a new requirement and there are likely to be objections. However, to > > >me > > >a link back to the Project itself is not burdensome, it makes sense, and > > >it > > >is useful to visitors. I have not seen objection to making this a > > >requirement on this list; so if anyone does object now would be a good > > >time > > >to speak up. > > > > > > -- Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:01:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02033 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0QQCl000682 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0P8T31214; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:25:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:25:08 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Tue Mar 19 17:25:08 2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:33:09 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/214 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: d1314798c3d9853c6a0ac3f0a3d42063 Hello again, Lets clarify where we are on the links discussion. First, are there objections to the text of the revised guideline as it now stands?: 3. Links: Local Coordinators must provide on their home page(s) a link to the main USGenWeb Project home page . You may use the USGenWeb logo to link back to the Project's main pages or you may have a text link, or both. In addition, each local home page must have a link to the main state page maintained by the state coordinator. A concern has been raised by a project member that the requirement to have a link to USGW is a new requirement and LCs may object. This is true. It is a new requirement and there are likely to be objections. However, to me a link back to the Project itself is not burdensome, it makes sense, and it is useful to visitors. I have not seen objection to making this a requirement on this list; so if anyone does object now would be a good time to speak up. Logos, which we've also discussed, are a separate issue. The prominent display of the logo is required by the bylaws; we cannot amend that. However, we can make recommendations about placement, size, and the definition of prominent. Should we do so? My opinion is that we should not, for reasons previously stated here. It gets into a very fuzzy issue of design and creativity and I think it is better to stay with what is in the bylaws. David has raised another issue, that of "too many logos". Again, this is a design issue, and as a couple of you have pointed out, some of them may be required by hosting services and how many is too many? There is also the issue of some project members who are members of other online genealogy groups having their logos on the same page. It is my opinion that there is very little we can do about the proliferation of logos on webpages or about so-called "dual pages" (where the LC maintains pages that serve both USGenWeb and another genealogy project). Comments? -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:01:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02477 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0UdCl001213 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0TaM04094; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:29:36 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:29:36 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Tue Mar 19 17:29:35 2002 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:37:37 -0500 From: merope Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Fwd: Re: [BOARD-L] Guidelines Committee, weekly report for the week ending 3/16/2002 In-reply-to: <000401c1cf58$91938380$0100a8c0@Dell> X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319193437.00a8b750@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318214640.00a85e00@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/215 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9eda8c25680f43f8860c3acd94350251 At 10:12 AM 3/19/02 -0500, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > >>In general, I think that "Main page" has been defined as the home page >of >each county, parish, etc. > >Where is this definition? If I want to point a CC to it where is it? I'm sorry, "definition" is probably too strong a word. It is more of a traditional usage. I have seen it usually when someone has placed commercial ads on secondary pages, or posted items for sale on secondary pages. Generally, from what I have seen, as long as the commercial activity does not take place on the "home" or first page of a site, it is not held to be violating the bylaws or guidelines. -Teresa From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:01:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03890 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0lICl003136 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0kLN24158; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:46:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:46:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 17:46:21 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up--Queries Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c1cfa8$8ac5aab0$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319190825.00a87800@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/216 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: e134a3ce893fa1833e744f6aad540433 It sounds fine to me at this point. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Tue Mar 19 20:16:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04764 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2K0vfCl004303 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2K0umm09519; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:56:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:56:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Tue Mar 19 17:56:47 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Catching up: Links Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c1cfaa$04b400a0$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319191917.00a8d0a0@radix.net> Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/218 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 680e26727f7e0db64b7bda89ecaeffe4 >>3. Links I don't see why anyone should object to a link to USGenWeb since they are a part of it. If they do maybe they should rethink having a USGenWeb page. >>Logos We've been telling CCs to have dual home pages if they hosting for other online genealogy groups. Makes sense, avoids the issue of whether it is a good thing or a bad thing to have one site for multiple groups. I suspect this is a decision best left to the states though. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/ Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al From ???@??? Sat Mar 23 06:29:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA00459 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2N6QNCl027623 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2N6PV703367; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:31 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:31 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Fri Mar 22 23:25:31 2002 Message-ID: <200203222223150250.03399B3A@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:23:15 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2N6PVq03344 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/244 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 0c6623eae5fe6636b0c2dd82953530a1 Yes Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/22/02 at 6:35 AM merope wrote: >Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed >near the top of the home page? From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 19:55:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03386 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2N0JWCl020745 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2N0Ibo24305; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:18:37 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:18:37 -0700 X-Original-Sender: INJohnCo@aol.com Fri Mar 22 17:18:37 2002 From: INJohnCo@aol.com Message-ID: <128.e85b054.29cd23db@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:18:35 EST Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/242 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 7bb29e322cf5b0b57dba60a3135af66e Yes to US logo placement on main page. > Cheryl Zufall Parker -|--- > INGenWeb Johnson County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/johnson/index.htm > INGenWeb Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/bartholomew/index.htm > INGenWeb Unknown County Coordinator > www.ingenweb.net/unknown/index.htm > Indiana Biographies, Johnson County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~injohnso/jcbiopage.html > Indiana Biographies, Bartholomew County Coordinator > www.rootsweb.com/~inbartho/bios/bcbiopage.html From ???@??? Sat Mar 23 00:42:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25637 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2N5FpCl021310 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2N5Eug32720; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:14:56 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:14:56 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Fri Mar 22 22:14:55 2002 Message-ID: <3C9C0F48.B57770A4@sampubco.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:14:48 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists References: <001001c1d1b4$7c23e450$0100a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/243 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 97ad3c47d4e6a4997b0325afa7daccba it is extremely difficult to remove a posted and archived message that was posted to a RW mailing list. Copyright is involved. RW will remove if the message is very slanderous and offensive but that take resources to try to extract and remove it because of linked reponses are involved too. Very different from message boards, when they can be removed quite easily. I can't say for other services (yahoo, egroups, etc) David Samuelsen Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > I admit to confusion here. I assume almost everyone has a mailing list > managed by an outside company. I realize that a great many CCs do not > realize the Rootsweb lists do not belong to USGenWeb. > > I don't believe any posts to any mailing lists are removable and I've > never had a request to do so. I thought the discussion about removing > posts applied to message boards, not mailing lists. > > Could someone clarify this for me? > > Cheryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: merope [mailto:merope@Radix.Net] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:41 AM > To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists > > One other topic that has been briefly touched on, which is analogous to > the > query board situation, is that of recommending to the LCs that they add > a > disclaimer about mailing lists. Probably every LC out that that uses a > mailing list uses something managed by a commercial company, like RW, > EZBoard, Yahoo, etc. Some of these make it extremely difficult to > remove > posts and LCs are not able to help them in this regard. > > Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" > section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about > outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query > message > systems? > > -Teresa From ???@??? Sat Mar 23 06:29:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA00463 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2N6QQCl027629 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2N6PXp03438; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:33 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:33 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dcaallen@pacifier.com Fri Mar 22 23:25:32 2002 Message-ID: <200203222223170060.0339A24C@smtp.pacifier.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322063659.00a9a580@radix.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322063659.00a9a580@radix.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (3) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:23:17 -0800 From: "DC & Alice Allen" Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2N6PWq03410 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/245 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4172a5f88f5778b20131e31b6318f04e It probably wouldn't hurt. I've never given this matter a second thought, when it comes to my mailing lists. I've never had anyone ask about having a query removed. Alice A USGenWeb Project CC for Marshall Co., KS Geauga Co., OH Seneca Co., OH Clark Co., WA *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/22/02 at 6:41 AM merope wrote: > >Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" >section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about >outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query message >systems? > >-Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 19:55:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA28909 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MNRfCl014694 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MNQlm05512; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:26:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:26:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: cristian@netonecom.net Fri Mar 22 16:26:47 2002 Message-ID: <00d901c1d1f9$0734d790$bcba41d8@JanCortez> From: "Jan Cortez" Old-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322063659.00a9a580@radix.net> Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:26:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <2sTp8D.A.9VB.327m8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/240 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 70b5f14c9759af2b3efbc1dc469d0a56 Agree with doing the disclaimer - but I think we should be able to design a disclaimer to include everything - as in a link to a page of disclaimers. Maybe do a *see disclaimer* by each item. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "merope" > One other topic that has been briefly touched on, which is analogous to the > query board situation, is that of recommending to the LCs that they add a > disclaimer about mailing lists. Probably every LC out that that uses a > mailing list uses something managed by a commercial company, like RW, > EZBoard, Yahoo, etc. Some of these make it extremely difficult to remove > posts and LCs are not able to help them in this regard. > > Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" > section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about > outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query message > systems? > > -Teresa > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA24335 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MHu0Cl029560 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MHt5905575; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:55:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:55:05 -0700 X-Original-Sender: richpump@wf.net Fri Mar 22 10:55:05 2002 Message-ID: <3C9B6F44.6AFB16BD@wf.net> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:52:04 -0600 From: ILGenWeb State Coordinator X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists References: <001001c1d1b4$7c23e450$0100a8c0@Dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2MKLO.A.zWB.5_2m8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/238 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: fefdae52486f0abf24d89028e3647c05 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Cheryl list owners can remove posts from list archives if necessary. Richard... Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > > I admit to confusion here. I assume almost everyone has a mailing list > managed by an outside company. I realize that a great many CCs do not > realize the Rootsweb lists do not belong to USGenWeb. > > I don't believe any posts to any mailing lists are removable and I've > never had a request to do so. I thought the discussion about removing > posts applied to message boards, not mailing lists. > > Could someone clarify this for me? > > Cheryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: merope [mailto:merope@Radix.Net] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:41 AM > To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists > > One other topic that has been briefly touched on, which is analogous to > the > query board situation, is that of recommending to the LCs that they add > a > disclaimer about mailing lists. Probably every LC out that that uses a > mailing list uses something managed by a commercial company, like RW, > EZBoard, Yahoo, etc. Some of these make it extremely difficult to > remove > posts and LCs are not able to help them in this regard. > > Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" > section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about > outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query > message > systems? > > -Teresa -- Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29313 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MIisCl006131 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MIi3v16901; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:44:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:44:03 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 22 11:44:02 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:42:56 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c1d1d1$66244e70$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/239 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 4700c5d9495f567d71e522528c3e7116 >>However, on further reflection, I am realizing that a very large number of services that LCs may use, including message boards, mail lists, guest books, counters, calendars, GEDCOM hosts, web space, etc. may ultimately be out of their control and it may be better to have a global disclaimer on our Guidelines page regarding this rather than suggest item by item that LCs add such disclaimers to their pages. It will get unwieldy and I am afraid will scare off LCs and/or visitors if they see piles of disclaimers on USGW sites. I think you are right. I am inclined, personally, to put disclaimers in various places but I also realize there are things I just don't think about -- search engines for example. Cheryl From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06964 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MFH9Cl007577 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MFGLB06027; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:16:21 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:16:21 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dsam@sampubco.com Fri Mar 22 08:16:21 2002 Message-ID: <3C9B4ABD.7CF5CEB6@sampubco.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:16:13 -0700 From: W David Samuelsen Organization: SAMPUBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD477 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/233 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 36176befe5229f04f20c9d60e5a98532 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 no, just on the home page. David merope wrote: > > Good morning, > > Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where > the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. > > Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed > near the top of the home page? > > Thanks! > > -Teresa > merope@radix.net > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13095 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MGBbCl015206 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MGAaH04515; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:10:36 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:10:36 -0700 X-Original-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net Fri Mar 22 09:10:35 2002 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020322111121.00aed6f0@earthlink.net> X-Sender: rainelane@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:11:50 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Lorraine Sonnenberg Newsome Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/236 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 82c9ce72e9f3139fe1898630ede09388 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Yes, on the "home" page... Sunny At 06:35 AM 3/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Good morning, > >Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where >the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. > >Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed >near the top of the home page? > >Thanks! > >-Teresa >merope@radix.net > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23460 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MHmlCl028570 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MHltq18220; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:47:55 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:47:55 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@Radix.Net Fri Mar 22 10:47:54 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:47:56 -0500 (EST) From: merope Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists In-Reply-To: <001001c1d1b4$7c23e450$0100a8c0@Dell> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <8RyweB.A.gcE.K52m8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/237 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f662d7631aa02fd9d7372646bd5e6962 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > I admit to confusion here. I assume almost everyone has a mailing list > managed by an outside company. I realize that a great many CCs do not > realize the Rootsweb lists do not belong to USGenWeb. > > I don't believe any posts to any mailing lists are removable and I've > never had a request to do so. I thought the discussion about removing > posts applied to message boards, not mailing lists. I use YahooGroups to run some mailing lists for my counties and posts can be removed easily. If someone contacts me and asks me to remove a message, it is a simple matter to do so. RW I understand makes it very difficult to remove postings to their mailing list and requesting it may actually result in the user being banned from further use of RW lists. Other mailing lists may also be very difficult to remove posts from. However, on further reflection, I am realizing that a very large number of services that LCs may use, including message boards, mail lists, guest books, counters, calendars, GEDCOM hosts, web space, etc. may ultimately be out of their control and it may be better to have a global disclaimer on our Guidelines page regarding this rather than suggest item by item that LCs add such disclaimers to their pages. It will get unwieldy and I am afraid will scare off LCs and/or visitors if they see piles of disclaimers on USGW sites. -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03725 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MElCCl003249 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MEkP303407; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:46:25 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:46:25 -0700 X-Original-Sender: morgan@usroots.com Fri Mar 22 07:46:25 2002 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020322094330.00a62570@mail.usroots.com> X-Sender: morgan@mail.usroots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:43:48 -0500 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Morgan Edward Johnson Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/232 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: c81348d4f0572091ea4343dfa671547c Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 yes At 06:35 AM 3/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Good morning, > >Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where >the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. > >Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed >near the top of the home page? > >Thanks! > >-Teresa >merope@radix.net > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07042 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MFHqCl007654 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MFH2B06546; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:17:02 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:17:02 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 22 08:17:02 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c1d1b4$7c23e450$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322063659.00a9a580@radix.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/234 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: f6032c5579cd9ad47b04ba6f12c11898 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 I admit to confusion here. I assume almost everyone has a mailing list managed by an outside company. I realize that a great many CCs do not realize the Rootsweb lists do not belong to USGenWeb. I don't believe any posts to any mailing lists are removable and I've never had a request to do so. I thought the discussion about removing posts applied to message boards, not mailing lists. Could someone clarify this for me? Cheryl -----Original Message----- From: merope [mailto:merope@Radix.Net] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:41 AM To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists One other topic that has been briefly touched on, which is analogous to the query board situation, is that of recommending to the LCs that they add a disclaimer about mailing lists. Probably every LC out that that uses a mailing list uses something managed by a commercial company, like RW, EZBoard, Yahoo, etc. Some of these make it extremely difficult to remove posts and LCs are not able to help them in this regard. Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query message systems? -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07050 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MFHrCl007657 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MFH5E06612; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:17:05 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:17:05 -0700 X-Original-Sender: LoganCty@mindspring.com Fri Mar 22 08:17:05 2002 From: "Cheryl Rothwell" Old-To: Subject: RE: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c1d1b4$7ff7a8a0$0100a8c0@Dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C9B3A98.BA3EE29@wf.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/235 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 1f22b8186de7135f5d041fba3f05ae97 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 Yes, on the home page. No to every page. Cheryl From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA18331 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MBdKCl010881 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MBcao04884; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:38:36 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:38:36 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 22 04:38:32 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:46:29 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322064520.009d1640@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Working document Resent-Message-ID: <0YKd_B.A.9LB.6exm8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/228 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-IMAPbase: 1016818773 16 X-UIDL: bbcbe2953460b26a37bc8dd9d1a8a10e Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 I have posted a slightly revised version of the working document at http://www.radix.net/~merope/lcguide.txt -Teresa From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA23245 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MCsZCl018566 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MCrlb21892; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:53:47 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:53:47 -0700 X-Original-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com Fri Mar 22 05:53:46 2002 X-Sender: dontharp@onemain.com@pop.onemain.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:57:48 -0600 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com From: Don Tharp Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id g2MCrkq21865 Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/230 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 5511fce7dcf4c19b038f150097ea87a1 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Yes, if we are considering the main/home page only. Don At 05:35 AM 03/22/2002, you wrote: >Good morning, > >Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where >the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. > >Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed >near the top of the home page? > >Thanks! > >-Teresa >merope@radix.net > > > From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29962 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MEBBCl027956 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MEAOW30332; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:10:24 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:10:24 -0700 X-Original-Sender: richpump@wf.net Fri Mar 22 07:10:24 2002 Message-ID: <3C9B3A98.BA3EE29@wf.net> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:07:20 -0600 From: ILGenWeb State Coordinator X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/231 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 9aed9c82a07c5bb245e5c49cdf3b8a8a Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 Yes, Richard... merope wrote: > > Good morning, > > Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where > the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. > > Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed > near the top of the home page? > > Thanks! > > -Teresa > merope@radix.net > > -- Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319 From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 06:37:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA17684 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MBRxCl009754 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MBRDH27258; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:27:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:27:13 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 22 04:27:13 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:35:11 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020321064827.00a954f0@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Logo placement Resent-Message-ID: To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/227 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: b06a07bdb2f9e38b5c06d0e7c2351da6 Good morning, Only a few of us have commented on this issue, so I'm not clear on where the group stands on it. Please respond "yes", "no", or abstain. Are you in favor of recommending that the required USGenWeb logo be placed near the top of the home page? Thanks! -Teresa merope@radix.net From ???@??? Fri Mar 22 15:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA18917 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail1.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MBnWCl011888 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2MBmjw12968; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:48:45 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:48:45 -0700 X-Original-Sender: merope@radix.net Fri Mar 22 04:48:44 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:41:22 -0500 From: merope X-Sender: merope@radix.net Old-To: Guidelines Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322063659.00a9a580@radix.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [USGW-Guidelines] Mailing lists Resent-Message-ID: <1ywxQC.A.UKD.doxm8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/229 X-Loop: USGW-GUIDELINES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: USGW-GUIDELINES-L-request@rootsweb.com X-UIDL: 52f7d41acefae23ce482d24b1d013d28 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 One other topic that has been briefly touched on, which is analogous to the query board situation, is that of recommending to the LCs that they add a disclaimer about mailing lists. Probably every LC out that that uses a mailing list uses something managed by a commercial company, like RW, EZBoard, Yahoo, etc. Some of these make it extremely difficult to remove posts and LCs are not able to help them in this regard. Do you think that we should add a recommendation to the "mailing lists" section of the proposed revisions that LCs include a disclaimer about outside ownership of mailing lists similar to the one about query message systems? -Teresa